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ok. Partizan didnt even get place in QR of EL.so instaid of us place first got Levski (!?,which after geting place in QR found out that they dont have $, who then made mistake with levski? who was greed? jordi?), so were replaced with some Riga. Bartomeu&Co evaded Partizan cos they were told Partizan has financial problems. ok, new uleb politics - Financial Fair-play. ok. but how can u explain that same Bartomeu&Co let club from same country to start EL when that club also didnt pay players and owe them 1 milion $ for last season.
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According with new ULEB policy of Financial Fair-play, how can THEY play EL when they didnt pay their players for last season? Plain and simple, double standards. there's nothing about fair play in Financial Fair-play, basicly its all will of one/few corrupted people.
ps:for moderator, this isnt argue with red star telekom fans, im talking about el, el qr clubs, im talking about new Financial Fair-play policy and double standards from which obviously only damage has EL itself. there will not be argue with RST fans, cos i dont care about them & their new club. im only interested in el and my club in its rightfull place beside other great EL teams.Last edited by Gordon Cole; 07-17-2014, 07:24 AM.WE ARE PARTIZAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3PWtKnWmSE
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Our paths will meet again!
.. for the famous club, known to all…
With thirteen titles in a row, fourteen in the series is near!
I will miss you a lot and I love you very much,
Joffrey Lauvergne“
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Gordan, Uleb has been really inconsistant with those rules. In some other threads we've come to an end that rules are there to serve Uleb's interpretation which is to fit their best interest. That is sadly the truth. I disagre with that. A lot.
They're saying they want to make those stuff simplier and more obvious now, while those rules were were applied selectively so many times now, I honestly wonder their intentions.
I will miss Partizan in the next season. However from the example of my own club, looking back, going out of euroleague was a neccesary thing as meddling there in the same pace was just postponing the inevitable. The longer you postpone that, the worse it gets. This way Partizan will have the time to adjust fast enough before it would become too late.
Financial fair play will become a reality sooner or later, as if or euroleague, as much as they'd want to make a 24 team euroleague with London, Paris, Amsterdam, Stockholm, Zurich, Vienna included they will have to realise one way or another that the genuine devotion actualy makes up for more € than some short term difference in 1M € budget. No worries about that.Originally posted by Jon_KoncakThat's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"
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Originally posted by Gordon Cole View Postok. Partizan didnt even get place in QR of EL.so instaid of us place first got Levski (!?,which after geting place in QR found out that they dont have $, who then made mistake with levski? who was greed? jordi?), so were replaced with some Riga. Bartomeu&Co evaded Partizan cos they were told Partizan has financial problems. ok, new uleb politics - Financial Fair-play. ok. but how can u explain that same Bartomeu&Co let club from same country to start EL when that club also didnt pay players and owe them 1 milion $ for last season.
renowned portal Mondo,article "Pay me Red Star!":
http://mondo.rs/a710273/Sport/Kosark...splati-me.html
official red star fan forum:
http://www.redstarbelgrade.info/foru...,6512.580.html
According with new ULEB policy of Financial Fair-play, how can THEY play EL when they didnt pay their players for last season? Plain and simple, double standards. there's nothing about fair play in Financial Fair-play, basicly its all will of one/few corrupted people.
ps:for moderator, this isnt argue with red star telekom fans, im talking about el, el qr clubs, im talking about new Financial Fair-play policy and double standards from which obviously only damage has EL itself. there will not be argue with RST fans, cos i dont care about them & their new club. im only interested in el and my club in its rightfull place beside other great EL teams.
Financial Fair Play rules will be applied the first time in the 2015/16 season.
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@to josko,
y but playing in EL makes things a little bit easier then not playing. i supose u r olimpija fan. situation with limpija and Partizan werent the same, not even close. olimpija was sole big club from slovenia, so u had money. u made problems of diferent kind, shall we say bad sport politics. u went into financial problem cos u spended more in some times, more than u should. we never were in that situations, we never were spenders, not even close, always lowest budgets in EL, even lower then u or Cibona. so u cant compare olimpija and Partizan. Partizan system is obvious: play in EL, bring anonimous youngsters, make results and sell those youngseters to big spenders. And that system worked for years, and noone complained. ULEB official ofc knew that and what did they do? they cut "umbilical cord" on which the club based its system. backstab. They want to put away Partizan cos its devotion club who works and makes success with low budget, practicaly with no money. Uleb scum wants to make Champions league in basketball, they want big money to circulate so they could fill up their pockets. they want to circulate big money but they pay like 7k euros for winn in EL, or 50k euros to EL Winner. What to say. They speak about high standards but they give nothing to clubs. Basicly we must spread awarenes that ULEB is corupted organization.
@matze,
u obviously arent into whole problem about ABA league places in EL and QR of EL. ABA league has 2 B-licence in EL and 1 in QR. Rules say when one team with b-license declines playing in EL, like cibona did, its b-license goes back to uleb and becomes wild-card which uleb gives to who they want to give. They could give wild card to anyone but they gave to Red Star Telekom. OK, bartomeu was special guest of some red star fans in serbian establishment during ABA F4, but ok. But third place, the place in QR stays to third team from ABA (or in this case fourth team, Partizan, again cos of cibona's decline), doesnt become wild-card. So first they gave wild-card to RST and secondly they didnt gave Partizan place even in QR which they must. not to mention that we are Serbian National champion (again better than Red Star Telekom) and that we obviously deserve A-license. So argument that Partizan didnt apply is hipokritikal and malicious. According to rules Partizan didnt have to apply to nothing. Lots of antiPartizan intentions were made in this case.Last edited by Gordon Cole; 07-17-2014, 11:20 AM.WE ARE PARTIZAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3PWtKnWmSE
"...You are pure my love, my blood, my home and family!
Our paths will meet again!
.. for the famous club, known to all…
With thirteen titles in a row, fourteen in the series is near!
I will miss you a lot and I love you very much,
Joffrey Lauvergne“
http://www.srdjanrikiantic.com/dear-...ter-is-for-you
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Originally posted by Gordon Cole View Post@to josko,
y but playing in EL makes things a little bit easier then not playing. i supose u r olimpija fan. situation with limpija and Partizan werent the same, not even close. olimpija was sole big club from slovenia, so u had money. u made problems of diferent kind, shall we say bad sport politics. u went into financial problem cos u spended more in some times, more than u should. we never were in that situations, we never were spenders, not even close, always lowest budgets in EL, even lower then u or Cibona. so u cant compare olimpija and Partizan. Partizan system is obvious: play in EL, bring anonimous youngsters, make results and sell those youngseters to big spenders. And that system worked for years, and noone complained. ULEB official ofc knew that and what did they do? they cut "umbilical cord" on which the club based its system. backstab. They want to put away Partizan cos its devotion club who works and makes success with low budget, practicaly with no money. Uleb scum wants to make Champions league in basketball, they want big money to circulate so they could fill up their pockets. they want to circulate big money but they pay like 7k euros for winn in EL, or 50k euros to EL Winner. What to say. They speak about high standards but they give nothing to clubs. Basicly we must spread awarenes that ULEB is corupted organization.
The situation in Olimpija is quite different than in Partizan, that's true. Ražnatović and alikes aren't as patient with Olimpija, so in case a player stays without wages for 2 months, there were loads of examples when they immediately broke the contract, signed elsewhere for more, sued the club for both wages + 6 additional wages (Fiba BAT rules) and with that spiral it's difficult to get back on track when you lose half of the team in the middle of the season and still have to pay them even if they're not playing. Nevertheless we're slowely getting there. Now imagine if Bogdanović and Bertans would do the same with Partizan? You'd immediately be 2M € shorter.
Thank god for normal americans as Danny Green, which didn't want to sue the club even if his manager wanted differently. What goes around comes around, his fair attitude is part of the reason he became a player he is today.Originally posted by Jon_KoncakThat's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"
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Partizan have created something endemic: system where money is on second place, or even third, for players, as in terms of importance. they all come only because they want to perfect themselves or just be better. and also its very impotant to get winning mentality. to play playoff finale and win. they got "total toughening up" in Partizan. noone can be compared with Partizan, and when something is endemic you dont try to destroy that, you help it to survive. few weeks ago several repeted bad intentions against our club happened and the last thing is to let it go. in last 25 years we didnt play EL maybe only 5-6 times(included years while we were under sanctions). we're integral part of EL, we're not like some, that are interest i bball only when their club is winning or have big budget.WE ARE PARTIZAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3PWtKnWmSE
"...You are pure my love, my blood, my home and family!
Our paths will meet again!
.. for the famous club, known to all…
With thirteen titles in a row, fourteen in the series is near!
I will miss you a lot and I love you very much,
Joffrey Lauvergne“
http://www.srdjanrikiantic.com/dear-...ter-is-for-you
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