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Well, obviously all Lithuanian basketball elite - Sabonis, Marčiulionis, Kurtinaitis, Kazlauskas- wants Balčiūnas to go. Kazlauskas thinks he's resposible for the article (look macleopard13's post) that basketnews.lt posted durring Eurobasket. Obviously no-one will prove that and I doubt very much Balčiūnas was ordering that article It was an opinion, simple opinion, which by the way was very common at that time when was posted, IMO.
More over, Guoga openly said that Kazlauskas wanted to control the media, censor all the articles related to the NT. He thought that the head of the NT (Sabonis?) must have this right. When I read that, I can openly say - do whatever you want Mr. Kazlauskas. With medals or without, but I want our NT to be free and not some authoritarian circle.
That famous, "offensive" article basically said one key point - our NT is playing slow, ugly basketball and the coach is to blame. At that time it was true and actually coach is always and anywhere to blame. I don't understand why the hell Kazlauskas is so insulted. That's everyday supper for any coach. Obviously Kazlas spend to much time in China and maybe had too much negative experience as a coch generally. You can't leave NT just because of one harch artical released at the time when your team really sucked. All this story is kinda sad.
As I see it, Kazlauskas and Sabonis simly burn out emotionally and that old rivalry with Balčiūnas also made a role. Kazlauskas simly can't deal with the job emotionally, that was seen all the time.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Straight forward View PostWell, obviously all Lithuanian basketball elite - Sabonis, Marčiulionis, Kurtinaitis, Kazlauskas- wants Balčiūnas to go. Kazlauskas thinks he's resposible for the article (look macleopard13's post) that basketnews.lt posted durring Eurobasket. Obviously no-one will prove that and I doubt very much Balčiūnas was ordering that article It was an opinion, simple opinion, which by the way was very common at that time when was posted, IMO.
More over, Guoga openly said that Kazlauskas wanted to control the media, censor all the articles related to the NT. He thought that the head of the NT (Sabonis?) must have this right. When I read that, I can openly say - do whatever you want Mr. Kazlauskas. With medals or without, but I want our NT to be free and not some authoritarian circle.
That famous, "offensive" article basically said one key point - our NT is playing slow, ugly basketball and the coach is to blame. At that time it was true and actually coach is always and anywhere to blame. I don't understand why the hell Kazlauskas is so insulted. That's everyday supper for any coach. Obviously Kazlas spend to much time in China and maybe had too much negative experience as a coch generally. You can't leave NT just because of one harch artical released at the time when your team really sucked. All this story is kinda sad.
As I see it, Kazlauskas and Sabonis simly burn out emotionally and that old rivalry with Balčiūnas also made a role. Kazlauskas simly can't deal with the job emotionally, that was seen all the time.Last edited by Shawshank; 10-02-2013, 07:45 PM.
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What a royal cluster fuck! And this is after a Silver! Can you imagine the implosion that would have transpired had Team Lietuva gone down earlier?
Any way you slice it though, this can't be good for Lithuanian basketball. Who would even want the job of picking up the pieces now?
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I don't know, Balciunas seems to be a sketchy fellow. He apparently went on trial with Marciulionis about something and lost. He accused Marciulionis of personal ambitions in LKF or some other. Then, he was arrested for illicitly using municipal funds for reconstruction of a hotel, and was acquitted.
If so many members are suddenly leaving, something's going on. Kazlauskas, Sabonis, Guoga and P. Motiejunas are leaving, while Marciulionis and Kurtinaitis feel that an internal conflict exists. If so many people are leaving, that's a red flag.
Read this last year's article: http://www.alfa.lt/straipsnis/150534...2-08-27_16-28/
Marciulionis experienced a similar type of criticism last year. We need to pay close attention to Balciunas. Maybe he is the reason for this conflict?
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From the article for which you gave a link:
Originally posted by alfa.ltNepatenkinti Lietuvos krepÅ¡inio federacijos (LKF) veikla Å arūnas Marčiulionis, Rimas Kurtinaitis, Jonas Kazlauskas, Tomas Pačėsas, Darius Maskoliūnas ir kiti ketina kelti klausimus organizacijos vadovams. (Unhappy with the workings of the Lithuanian Basketball Federation Å arūnas Marčiulionis, Rimas Kurtinaitis, Jonas Kazlauskas, Tomas Pačėsas, Darius Maskoliūnas and others are urging that questions be raised with the organization's leadership.)
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Originally posted by macleopard13 View PostI don't know, Balciunas seems to be a sketchy fellow. He apparently went on trial with Marciulionis about something and lost. He accused Marciulionis of personal ambitions in LKF or some other. Then, he was arrested for illicitly using municipal funds for reconstruction of a hotel, and was acquitted.
If so many members are suddenly leaving, something's going on. Kazlauskas, Sabonis, Guoga and P. Motiejunas are leaving, while Marciulionis and Kurtinaitis feel that an internal conflict exists. If so many people are leaving, that's a red flag.
Read this last year's article: http://www.alfa.lt/straipsnis/150534...2-08-27_16-28/
Marciulionis experienced a similar type of criticism last year. We need to pay close attention to Balciunas. Maybe he is the reason for this conflict?
Naujienų portalas, kuriame pateikiamos karščiausios naujienos iš Lietuvos ir viso pasaulio. Įvykiai Lietuvoje, videonaujienos, verslas, sportas, komentarai, diskusijos ir daugiau.
I don't know how true the statement "Balciunas is evil" is, but Kazlauskas was criticized by some LKF members after the game against Serbia. It's obvious there is smth wrong there and it's not good for our basketball. Remember what happened to this year's Russian NT.
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Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View PostReal also this article.
Naujienų portalas, kuriame pateikiamos karščiausios naujienos iš Lietuvos ir viso pasaulio. Įvykiai Lietuvoje, videonaujienos, verslas, sportas, komentarai, diskusijos ir daugiau.
I don't know how true the statement "Balciunas is evil" is, but Kazlauskas was criticized by some LKF members after the game against Serbia. It's obvious there is smth wrong there and it's not good for our basketball. Remember what happened to this year's Russian NT.
Here's the conflict between Balciunas and Kazlauskas:
While Kazlauskas and his Greek team got on the podium in Katowice in 2009, LKF were partying in the same city. But no one from the LKF came to congratulate him.
"We are criticized by such dilettantes. Everyone needs to know their place," said Balciunas.
"Whoever finished LKKA should work in the sports field. Whoever studied math should stick with math, and whoever studied physics - stick with physics. You understand what I'm talking about?" Balciunas asked rhetorically.
It seems that LKF wants J. Kazlauskas, a man with a math diploma, to leave the world of basketball.Last edited by macleopard13; 10-03-2013, 05:19 PM.
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Now, here's the latest interview with Motiejunas regarding all the resignations and the reasons behind it. For me it is quite clear - Balciunas must go. Otherwise we get to see Pacesas as a head coach and don't believe he is good enough coach. No, scratch that, actually I don't think he IS a good coach.People don't come with instruction manuals, that's why to figure them out, you have to press their buttons...
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Originally posted by macleopard13 View PostSo I see now: it's Garastas and co (including Balciunas and Vainauskas) vs. Sabonis and co (including Kazlauskas and Guoga). Just like Democrats vs. Republicans here in the States... Unfortunately, Lithuanian basketball is becoming more like politics and less like sport.
Overall, Lith bball made one step forward, but then took two steps back this year... And it might get way worse in the future.
Originally posted by lafa View PostNow, here's the latest interview with Motiejunas regarding all the resignations and the reasons behind it. For me it is quite clear - Balciunas must go. Otherwise we get to see Pacesas as a head coach and don't believe he is good enough coach. No, scratch that, actually I don't think he IS a good coach.
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Originally posted by macleopard13 View PostSo I see now: it's Garastas and co (including Balciunas and Vainauskas) vs. Sabonis and co (including Kazlauskas and Guoga). Just like Democrats vs. Republicans here in the States... Unfortunately, Lithuanian basketball is becoming more like politics and less like sport.
Here's the conflict between Balciunas and Kazlauskas:People don't come with instruction manuals, that's why to figure them out, you have to press their buttons...
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Originally posted by lafa View PostFor me it is quite clear - Balciunas must go. Otherwise we get to see Pacesas as a head coach and don't believe he is good enough coach. No, scratch that, actually I don't think he IS a good coach.
Originally posted by Mindozas View PostGod forbid from Pacesas in NT, unless it's LT streetball one (if we have such)
Last edited by Hepcat; 10-04-2013, 02:43 PM.
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Originally posted by Hepcat View PostWell it does seem pretty clear to me that Balčiūnas is not the right man for the LKF, why are you connecting Tomas Pačėsas with Balčiūnas? And why do you dislike Pačėsas as a coach? And is Pačėsas now not the only good alternative since Rimas Kurtinaitis has said he isn't interested in the job?
Doesn't Lithuania always field teams in the FIBA 3-on-3 basketball tournaments?
Kurtinaitis is the only serious Lith option, respectable coach with knowledge, but he doesn't want to go back to this mess.
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Originally posted by Mindozas View PostThey does. I meant typicall 5 on 5 streetball, like the one in US Rucker park f.e., where you run and gun without too much thinking, Pacesas would suit such team perfectly as he knows shit about tactics, but loves to scream and fire up players with phrases like "shoot the ball blet". He might make impression to kids with that, but nobody will give a shit about his screamings in NT level like nobody gave too much shit in club level.
Kurtinaitis is the only serious Lith option, respectable coach with knowledge, but he doesn't want to go back to this mess.
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