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Originally posted by pohani komarac View Postif he does not have quality to play in Madrid then he didn't have better season then Mirotic, because Mirotic was among top players in one of top teams in europe
If you want to give MVP to a player of the best team in the league, it would be Rudy Fernández, Sergio Llull or even Sergio RodrÃguez before Mirotic.Not well? What is illness to the body of a knight-errant?
What matter wounds? For each time he falls he shall rise
again... and woe to the wicked! Sancho! My armor, my sword!
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Originally posted by pohani komarac View Postyes. mirotic can get only better this season then he was last year, klieza shadow of him self
2nd. fenerbahce has some unprooven players. real madrid has same team that reach finals last year and won acb league (most relevant national league) + upgrade at center. among 2 centers signed 1 in prooven FF center
and then fenerbahce bench?????
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Originally posted by jasua_85 View Postu are funny) kleiza and mirotic cant compare now yes mirotic very talanted but still must improve much for reach kleiza level
is it level he showed in olympiacos and first years in nba???
maybe, but i doubt. injurys slowed him down.Jordi Bertomeu sucks!
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yes fener has a really good roster and the best coach in europe but still there are some really important details that transform a good team to a champion. and fener is lacking those "details".
1)they don't have depth in their roster which is really important in big matches and even more important in a playoff seriers or the final 4.
2)they don't have good indigenous players, the turkish players in fener are role players like onan or savas. and obradovic knows really well that if you want to succeed you must be able to rely on your indigenous players like he did on pao were greek players were the best of the team. but pao had diamantidis, alvertis, fotsis, spanoulis, tsartsaris, perperoglou, hatzivrettas etc...
3)they lack of players with winning mentality. and purchasing teodosic is a move in the wrong direction... teodosic isn't just a loser. teodosic could make miami heat lose the euroleague... and imho kleiza isn't a winner either. look at him in the crucial matches with lithuania or with olympiakos in the past. he is very talented but he doesn't have the right mentality. obradovic is an expert in transcending his winning mentality to his players but he isn't doing miracles. so don't expect he can transform teodosic. in the past he always had players-winners: bodiroga, diamantidis, alvertis, batiste, saras, spanoulis, fotsis etc.
generally fener isn't looking as the typical obradovic kind of team. for sure it's a very interesting team but i think he will have a very difficult time if he wants to really be a serious contender for the title
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Originally posted by louie k View Postyes fener has a really good roster and the best coach in europe but still there are some really important details that transform a good team to a champion. and fener is lacking those "details".
1)they don't have depth in their roster which is really important in big matches and even more important in a playoff seriers or the final 4.
2)they don't have good indigenous players, the turkish players in fener are role players like onan or savas. and obradovic knows really well that if you want to succeed you must be able to rely on your indigenous players like he did on pao were greek players were the best of the team. but pao had diamantidis, alvertis, fotsis, spanoulis, tsartsaris, perperoglou, hatzivrettas etc...
3)they lack of players with winning mentality. and purchasing teodosic is a move in the wrong direction... teodosic isn't just a loser. teodosic could make miami heat lose the euroleague... and imho kleiza isn't a winner either. look at him in the crucial matches with lithuania or with olympiakos in the past. he is very talented but he doesn't have the right mentality. obradovic is an expert in transcending his winning mentality to his players but he isn't doing miracles. so don't expect he can transform teodosic. in the past he always had players-winners: bodiroga, diamantidis, alvertis, batiste, saras, spanoulis, fotsis etc.
generally fener isn't looking as the typical obradovic kind of team. for sure it's a very interesting team but i think he will have a very difficult time if he wants to really be a serious contender for the title
Onan, Peker and maybe Preldzic are the most overated players in Turkey. Obradovic will have big problems to transfer his mentality on players when he has such losers in the team. Beside that, Fener doesn't have even solid SG or combo guard for years and they spent 100 milions in last couple seasons. Unbelievably!
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Eurohoopsnet just twitted that negotiations between Fenerbahçe and CSKA are broken and Teodosic will stay with the russians.
Obradovic has to wait for his hardest challenge ever: win an Euroleague title with Teodosic in the team.Not well? What is illness to the body of a knight-errant?
What matter wounds? For each time he falls he shall rise
again... and woe to the wicked! Sancho! My armor, my sword!
Follow me on Twitter: @Vendri_7
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Looking forward too see if Zeljko Obradovic will succeed with his new team. Somehow I believe that at this moment, Fenerbahce roster is not good enough for title. We will see.World of Basketball: http://www.worldofbasketball.org
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Originally posted by World of Basketball View PostLooking forward too see if Zeljko Obradovic will succeed with his new team. Somehow I believe that at this moment, Fenerbahce roster is not good enough for title. We will see.
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Originally posted by Levenspiel View PostYou guys better stop writing here, as most of you clearly don't know basketball... not good enough for title??? do you crazy!!? what about klieza???????
Last year Efes was about to eliminate Olympiacos..Because they were not drawn with Real, CSKA & Barça..F4 is already a silly system..A team in good form & good day given by God can win other teams in one leg match such as Olympiacos did 2 years in a row.IF YOU ARE NOT REAL CANARY, THEN FU
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Originally posted by jasua_85 View Postall most hate turk team dont worry levenspiel
lets be a little serious now, personally my second preference(first being my own team panathinaikos) for winning the euroleague this year would be fener cause of obradovic. BUT it's really hard and it seems that you don't really understand what it needs to win the title. you think that if you make a couple of impressive signings like kleiza your opponents will be scared and surrender? right now i think cska, barcelona, real, panathinaikos, olympiakos have more chances for the title and obradovic needs to do a lot of work to surpass them. and he knows it.
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