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    The 6'7" Ian Sangalang is currently the best big man in the amateur right now. He's the reigning NCAA MVP. He also recently won the PBA D-league MVP, and his 4th PBA D-league Championship. He's a projected top 3 overall pick in the 2013 PBA Draft. His former teammate Calvin "The Beast" Abueva is currently the best rookie in the PBA right now. I think Ian is going to be one of the best Centers in the PBA, and a future national team member.


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    19.26 ppg on 57.1 FG%, 11.58 ppg, 1.1 spg, 1.12 bpg, 1.11 apg

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    13.3 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.0 bpg, 0.5 apg, 0.50 spg

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    Yup, he deserves his own thread. From a "Turnover Machine" in his first International Game, to NCAA MVP, and one of the most dominant local big man in the amateurs. He's a potential number one draft pick in the PBA.

    Here's my recollection of his game 5 years ago in the 2008 Nokia Youth Invitational. I had an unflattering observation of him then, but by golly, look at him now ...

    http://rhk111sblogspot.wordpress.com...outs-rp-79-54/
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    I'm turned-off with Sangalang's decision not to join the Gilas cadet team. Maybe it was not his decision but the decision of his handlers/godfathers to turn-down the call for national service and instead awaits his entry to the PBA draft this year. Maybe his handlers are worried that Sangalang will get injured while donning the Philippine colors thus jeopardizing Sangalang future basketball career & in the same sense jeopardizing his handlers' "return of investment". That's the problem with "some" of these handlers/managers/godfathers. They treat their "alaga" as "investments" that they are the ones who will decide what their "alaga" should do & what should not do.

    With that "risk of getting an injury" factor, I wonder is there any difference between playing for Philippine team & playing in collegiate tournaments or in the PBA D-League as far as risk of getting an injury is concerned? Is a player playing in international competitions more prone to injury than playing in the UAAP, NCAA & PBA D-League? Sangalang has played for San Sebastain in the NCAA & for NLEX in the D-League for quite sometime, and it's ok for his handlers. But when Sangalang was invited to play for the Philippine team, his handlers would not let him join becoz it would be dangerous for the kid that he might get a serious injury while playing abroad. I wonder what kind of impression his handlers are giving Sangalang. That it's ok to play for any team or any league but not for the Philippine team? What kind of influence do these handlers are imparting to this young player?

    Too much greed & commercialism are spoiling Philippine basketball. This is the plaque that is hounding Philippine basketball right now. A few decades ago, commercialism only exist among professional players. Right now, it rampantly exist even among college & high school players. Ngayon kasi high school pa lang yung player meron ng manager/handler/benefactor. Eh baka darating ang araw, nasa kindergarthen pa lang yung potential basketball player meron ng manager/handler/benefactor.

    I would love to see Sangalang take sometime to train & play for the cadet team be4 entering the PBA. It would have been beneficial for him had he joined the Gilas team that played in the Dubai tournament last January. The experience would have been very valuable for his development as a young player. Never mind if Gilas finished only 6th & lost 4 out of 5 games in that tournament. It's the experience in playing in that level of competition that counts the most. Sangalang's contemporaries who joined the cadet team in Dubai, like Kevin Alas, RR Garcia, Garvo Lanete, Ronald Pascual, Jake Pascual, Matt Ganuelas, definitely gained a lot from the experience w/c will be crucial for their development as a young & promising players. I hope Sangalang realizes what he had missed for turning his back from the call of national duty.
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    Somehow I am not as offended with Sangalang playing for Gilas as I was with Fajardo, mainly because we do have a lot of other guys within his height range and skill level in Basketball.

    The Gilas stint would've been more for HIMSELF than for Gilas. He can get the opportunity to get better training from the best coaches in the country. If you watch closely the videos of the current Gilas practices, you will see Norman giving drills and mentoring the young, big men of that team.

    Furthermore, he can play with and against the best big men in practices, and who knows, he could've played in more international competitions. Anyway, it's HIS loss, not Gilas. Note that most, if not all of the Gilas standouts ended up getting picked in the PBA Draft, and some have ended up getting good careers in the PBA.

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    I'll take him over Slaughter with the number 1 pick. Sure, Greg is taller. But it's not as if Sanggalang is 6'3. He's around 6'6 which is tall enough for the PBA.

    He has more moves which will be very useful in the pros. He has gone a long way since his rookie year when he couldn't even catch a drop pass. When he did, all he knows is do a pump fake. Now, he has a lot of pivot moves that will make Patrimonio proud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    I'm turned-off with Sangalang's decision not to join the Gilas cadet team. Maybe it was not his decision but the decision of his handlers/godfathers to turn-down the call for national service and instead awaits his entry to the PBA draft this year. Maybe his handlers are worried that Sangalang will get injured while donning the Philippine colors thus jeopardizing Sangalang future basketball career & in the same sense jeopardizing his handlers' "return of investment". That's the problem with "some" of these handlers/managers/godfathers. They treat their "alaga" as "investments" that they are the ones who will decide what their "alaga" should do & what should not do.

    With that "risk of getting an injury" factor, I wonder is there any difference between playing for Philippine team & playing in collegiate tournaments or in the PBA D-League as far as risk of getting an injury is concerned? Is a player playing in international competitions more prone to injury than playing in the UAAP, NCAA & PBA D-League? Sangalang has played for San Sebastain in the NCAA & for NLEX in the D-League for quite sometime, and it's ok for his handlers. But when Sangalang was invited to play for the Philippine team, his handlers would not let him join becoz it would be dangerous for the kid that he might get a serious injury while playing abroad. I wonder what kind of impression his handlers are giving Sangalang. That it's ok to play for any team or any league but not for the Philippine team? What kind of influence do these handlers are imparting to this young player?

    Too much greed & commercialism are spoiling Philippine basketball. This is the plaque that is hounding Philippine basketball right now. A few decades ago, commercialism only exist among professional players. Right now, it rampantly exist even among college & high school players. Ngayon kasi high school pa lang yung player meron ng manager/handler/benefactor. Eh baka darating ang araw, nasa kindergarthen pa lang yung potential basketball player meron ng manager/handler/benefactor.

    I would love to see Sangalang take sometime to train & play for the cadet team be4 entering the PBA. It would have been beneficial for him had he joined the Gilas team that played in the Dubai tournament last January. The experience would have been very valuable for his development as a young player. Never mind if Gilas finished only 6th & lost 4 out of 5 games in that tournament. It's the experience in playing in that level of competition that counts the most. Sangalang's contemporaries who joined the cadet team in Dubai, like Kevin Alas, RR Garcia, Garvo Lanete, Ronald Pascual, Jake Pascual, Matt Ganuelas, definitely gained a lot from the experience w/c will be crucial for their development as a young & promising players. I hope Sangalang realizes what he had missed for turning his back from the call of national duty.
    Right on the money sir. He is going down the path of Arwind Santos; but the NT will not miss him that badly if the likes of Almazan, Escoto, Rosario, etc. pan out... It's a given (or maybe not) that Sangalang will be in the PBA someday but being in the NT will make his career more special.
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    Ian Sangalang is the modern day Danny Francisco. Represented the country in the 2008 SEABA Youth and Fiba Asia Under 18. Won the Palarong Pambansa in 2009, NCAA in 2009, PBL title with Excel Roof in 2009-2010, FilOil/Flying V preseason title in 2010, PCCL Championship in 2011 and 4 straight titles with NLEX at the PBA D-League. A tremendous amateur/collegiate career.

    Wow! That 2008 RP Youth team could have been spectacular had Ryan Buenafe, Nico Salva, Arvie Bringas and Kyle Pascual played in the 2008 FIBAsia U18. Plus if the coaching staff had discovered Rome Dela Rosa and the Semerad twins.

    Good luck to Ian.
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    It's nice that this Kid is going places.. I still remember the time when he was so thin and was a turnover machine. Soc Rivera used to bring him for tryouts in Manila.

    Now he is much much better than his friend.

    Soc is now busy being a tambay in our Barangay. BTW, Soc has an older brother which is taller than him. Sayang lang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhk111 View Post
    Somehow I am not as offended with Sangalang playing for Gilas as I was with Fajardo, mainly because we do have a lot of other guys within his height range and skill level in Basketball.

    The Gilas stint would've been more for HIMSELF than for Gilas. He can get the opportunity to get better training from the best coaches in the country. If you watch closely the videos of the current Gilas practices, you will see Norman giving drills and mentoring the young, big men of that team.

    Furthermore, he can play with and against the best big men in practices, and who knows, he could've played in more international competitions. Anyway, it's HIS loss, not Gilas. Note that most, if not all of the Gilas standouts ended up getting picked in the PBA Draft, and some have ended up getting good careers in the PBA.
    Agree with you on this. I think as early as 2009, if I'm not mistaken, Junmar Fajardo was already invited to play for the Rajko Toroman-mentored Smart Gilas 1 training pool. I think Junmar was around 20 years old at the time. Unfortunately, his school, the University of Cebu didn't allow him to join Gilas. Junmar has to contend himself playing in the CESAFI collegiate tournament in Cebu whose level of competition is obviously lower than what Fajardo would had been exposed to had he joined Gilas-1. At CESAFI, Fajardo was ranged against centers who were 5 to 6 inches shorter than him & whose skill level is expectedly not up to par.

    If we look at Fajardo's game with Petron right now, well, I can say he's really talented. The talent is there, obviously. Of course we can see some flaws in his game. And I think, those flaws are the product of Fajardo's limited experience playing competitive basketball. I think Fajardo played within the level of basketball at CESAFI longer than he should have. I think by year 2010, Fajardo should have already joined Gilas-1 as his skill level was already longing for higher competition. Fajardo should have graduated from the level of basketball at CESAFI & climb to the next level.

    Going back to Ian Sangalang, I believe joining the Gilas cadet team would maximize his improvement & enhance his development as a youthful player. No doubt, Sangalang has the talent. He was able to polish that talent while playing in the NCAA & the PBA D-League. But in my opinion, it is through playing in international competitions where a player gains "toughness" (mental & physical toughness). And we all know how important toughness is not just in basketball but in all sports discipline as well. Talent can make a good player but toughness makes a complete player.

    How old were China's Wang Zhizhi, Yao Ming & Yi Jian Lian when they joined the Chinese senior NT? How old is Fadi El Khatib when he joined the Lebanese senior NT? 18, 19, 20 years old?

    Ang pinanghihinayangan ko kay Sangalang is that, he passed up the chance to gain experience in international basketball at a young age. Let's face it, 3 to 4 years from now, he will most likely make it to the national seniors team. Most likely it would be a PBA-select nat'l. team. But the problem is, that will be his 1st experience playing international basketball at the senior level (remember he was a former RP Under-18 player). And we all know the difficult adjustments a 1st timer in international basketball undergoes no matter how talented & athletic that player is. International basketball is a different level. At least, had Sangalang, joined the cadet team, the next time he will play international basketball, di na sya mangangapa becoz he already got a taste of it. I think that's the very purpose of the cadet team. The cadet team was formed to expose our amateur players to the rigors of international competition as early as possible so that when they became PBA players & be selected to the nat'l. seniors team in the very near future, di na sila maninibago (or maging kabado) sa atmosphere ng international basketball.

    I'll ask this question: If ever Alex Cabagnot & JV Casio are chosen to play for the national team, who do you think will most likely have the easier time to adjust to the nature of international basketball?
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    Ian is already pretty good, but I feel if he has better training and better exposure, he will be EVEN BETTER. Always a good thing to have the chance of improving your skills.

    Food for thought for Ian and his handlers ...

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    he is a late bloomer who i heard just started playing basketball when he was 14 yrs old but look at him now, a cut above the rest & probably the best center in the amateur ranks right now. he must be thankful that turing valenzona is still with baste as he help develop ian's game. btw he and adducul wear the same jersey # with baste.

    he intended to play his final season with baste but his backer is holding him back. if ever he will play again that will seal the deal with his successful collegiate career in w/c he almost won all the possible championship in the amateur.
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    Ian Sanggalang not joining cadet team doesn't worries me. He will be missing only opportunities of practice sessions of big men like him with coach Norman Black. Aside from that he'll missed minor things. The cadet members of Gilas team were named primarily for SEA Games campaign. They won't be used in preparation games leading to FIBA Asia Championships. I even doubt if the Gilas management will bring the cadet players with the rest of the team to Lithuania camp. It's more apt more him to rest his legs as he's the busiest big man in the amateur ranks at present.

    It does not follow that when you are in the cadet team, you'll always be named in the final roster for SEA Games. Remember 2011 SEA edition, there were late additions like Chris Tiu and Dave Marcelo. For me until the last minute of submission of final line-up, there's still chance that Ian Sanggalang may change his mind and declare his availability to be included.

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