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    Default 2013 35th William R. Jones Cup [Taipei, Taiwan, July 6-14]

    I have no information other than dates at this point. About 2-3 weeks before FIBA Asia.
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    Teams as of now that will join
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    I read this on Asia Basket last week...

    Team USA to return to Jones Cup (2013)

    Team USA has agreed to return to Taipei, Taiwan for the 35th Annual Williams Jones Cup. Team USA came just one point away from winning gold this summer losing to the Filipino National Team 76-75. This game was a battle from start to finish. Although Team USA led the game for 38 minutes the last two proved to be the most important.

    "We had the game won and we dropped the ball", said coach McAvene. I give them alot of credit but we will win gold in 2013.

    This was the first season that the Williams Jones Cup has allowed a USA National since 2004. The Americans carried themselves as great professionals even when many fans felt they were cheated verses Iran in their 7th game. "We can't control people", said McAvene. But we can control our emotions and character.

    Team USA President and CEO of UPG Jerone Dodd issued a statement this morning concerning 2013. "Last year's trip to Taipei was so beneficial in terms of experience for the team and our company that we made sure to agree to a more long term commitment with the Chinese Taipei Basketball Association to not only bring the men's team, but also a women's team for the foreseeable future."

    Details of the agreement were not disclosed.

    Although we have no idea who will make the 14 man roster UPG has 4 returners. Co-Captains Marcus Melvin (203-F-82, college: N.Carolina St.) and Jermaine Barnes (194-G/F-82, agency: Gamble Sports Management, college: Point, GA) have already re-signed with the likes of Josh Powell (206-F-83, college: N.Carolina St.) and Curtis Marshall. Marcus Melvin and Jermaine Barnes were big in the first games for Team USA. Barnes set the tone for team USA in there opening game verses Taiwan scoring 17 points in only 17 minutes of action. He would later be sidelined with an ankle injury suffered in the 3rd game against Korea. Barnes would later return and play a key role in the championship game scoring its first 8 points and carrying the club through the first half. He was named Asia-Basket.com All-Jones Cup Honorable Mention for his efforts. Melvin was Team USAs MVP carrying the club on both ends. He was very key verse Iran scoring 21 points and pulling down 12 rebounds. Melvin also went down with a leg injury later that game which changed the chemistry of the Americans. Marshall and Melvin where both named to the 1st team of the Williams Jones Cup. Marshall played in all nine games and led the team in scoring with 14.8ppg on 51% shooting from the field.

    Well with the excitement back in Taiwan for the Jones Cup everyone is asking the same question. Will Josh Powell and James Mays (206-F-86, college: Clemson) committing to the team? We shall see in the very near future. For more information on Team USA Basketball please visit www.teamusajonescup.com.
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    Japan will participate as the tourney is marked in their 2013 FIBA Calendar.
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    i remember their 5"8 PG Curtis Justice if im not mistaken
    what a highflying guard.
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    Default Filipino participation in jeopardy

    The current Chinese Taipei Basketball Association (CTBA) president/director is Ting Shou-chung who is also a politician (see here and here)

    His personal position towards the Philippines (1:41 mark):



    In this video, Taipei City legislator Chung Hsiao-ping holds a press conference with former basketball player/current legislator Cheng Chih-lung, calling on the suspension of all Taiwan-Filipino sports exchanges, specifically naming the Jones Cup. Cheng also added uncomplimentary comment about the sportsmanship of Filipino players.

    1999 Jones Cup brawl remembered, with commentary by current CTBA vice-secretary Lee Yun-hsiang and Taiwan Beer coach Chou Cun-san. Basically listed all the dirty tricks they alleged Filipinos use, such as putting nails on guest teams benches...


    While on the subject, another provocative news program using Filipino basketball as the subject, including a few Jones Cup highlights. One of the quotes is pretty funny "They used to have a glorious history, but now they suck, so they only use elbows now."


    This from 2011 Wuhan was also mentioned:
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post
    The current Chinese Taipei Basketball Association (CTBA) president/director is Ting Shou-chung who is also a politician (see here and here)

    His personal position towards the Philippines (1:41 mark):



    In this video, Taipei City legislator Chung Hsiao-ping holds a press conference with former basketball player/current legislator Cheng Chih-lung, calling on the suspension of all Taiwan-Filipino sports exchanges, specifically naming the Jones Cup. Cheng also added uncomplimentary comment about the sportsmanship of Filipino players.


    1999 Jones Cup brawl remembered, with commentary by current CTBA vice-secretary Lee Yun-hsiang and Taiwan Beer coach Chou Cun-san. Basically listed all the dirty tricks they alleged Filipinos use, such as putting nails on guest teams benches...


    While on the subject, another provocative news program using Filipino basketball as the subject, including a few Jones Cup highlights. One of the quotes is pretty funny "They used to have a glorious history, but now they suck, so they only use elbows now."
    As if the Taiwanese are among the most decent sportsmen in the world. I wonder what the Taiwanese can say about some "spotty" officiating in the Jones Cup specially in games involving Taiwanese teams. That's the common complaint of teams participating in the Jones Cup.
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    Whoah. I'm still at a loss for words due to their reaction. Wow.

    If they cut all sports exchanges with us, does it mean that they won't join the FIBA-Asia?

    "They used to have a glorious history, but now they suck, so they only use elbows now." -p*ssies.

    Oh wait, if they say that we suck, well they suck more than us. They haven't beaten us in like, four years :|

    Thanks for the post and translation sino

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    Just stage a tuneup game against the Taiwanese. On neutral grounds of course.

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    I have to stand with Taiwan on the issue, but some Taiwanese TV programs are outrageously ridiculous, with sensationalism the only objective. This is one example. Using basketball manners to discuss politics is simple crazy (not to mention those ridiculous comments). In Mainland China stuff like this will be censored right away.

    Other than occasional egg-throwing, flag-burning, cyberwar and stuff like that, possibly with immigrants moving to their home countries, the event will go away peacefully without any other actions. But I do think this event will have a significant impact in Asian politics in ways that may not be apparent at this point.

    From a basketball standpoint, the CT-RP games, if they take place as scheduled, could very well result in brawls so careful measures need to be taken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post
    I have to stand with Taiwan on the issue, but some Taiwanese TV programs are outrageously ridiculous, with sensationalism the only objective. This is one example. Using basketball manners to discuss politics is simple crazy (not to mention those ridiculous comments). In Mainland China stuff like this will be censored right away (actually now that I'm searching China doesn't seem to have any political talk shows, so I can't even find an anti-Filipino talk program even though public anti-Filipino sentiments are shared...)

    Other than occasional egg-throwing, flag-burning, cyberwar and stuff like that, possibly with immigrants moving to their home countries, the event will go away peacefully without any other actions. But I do think this event will have a significant impact in Asian politics in ways that may not be apparent at this point.

    From a basketball standpoint, the CT-RP games, if they take place as scheduled, could very well result in brawls so careful measures need to be taken.
    With them instigating it.

    Thing is, anti-Taiwanese sentiment is at a minimum in The Philippines, the issue isnt dominating airwaves. Most really don't care at all, however, the stand of many in the issue is aligned with the Philippine Coast Guard's testimony.

    Sports and politics shouldn't mix, but these guys are just...plain idiotic.

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    Taiwan media is a few notches bat-shit crazy than we have here on the islands. But in a basketball standpoint, the "dirty" stuff only happens on the court. But to extend it to the home crowd and the capability of the host country to provide a safe and fair environment for competition? Well, the Shanghai Sharks didn't actually went home getting lynched nor did they have nails sticking out of their asses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiziken_pinas View Post
    With them instigating it.

    Thing is, anti-Taiwanese sentiment is at a minimum in The Philippines, the issue isnt dominating airwaves. Most really don't care at all, however, the stand of many in the issue is aligned with the Philippine Coast Guard's testimony.

    Sports and politics shouldn't mix, but these guys are just...plain idiotic.
    So true, man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolz View Post
    Just stage a tuneup game against the Taiwanese. On neutral grounds of course.
    And the Philippines should wear a uniform with the word FORMOSA on their chest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiziken_pinas View Post
    With them instigating it.

    Thing is, anti-Taiwanese sentiment is at a minimum in The Philippines, the issue isnt dominating airwaves. Most really don't care at all, however, the stand of many in the issue is aligned with the Philippine Coast Guard's testimony.

    Sports and politics shouldn't mix, but these guys are just...plain idiotic.
    This is the shining moment for these leaders(of taiwan) to be more known and become heroes...That's why they are so OA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by weward View Post
    This is the shining moment for these leaders(of taiwan) to be more known and become heroes...That's why they are so OA.


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    If you have 14% approval ratings, for sure your people are in discontent. If you are President Ma, then you will do anything to please you people. And this incident is the perfect scenario to boost your popularity.

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    Taiwanese are just bitter, they cannot beat Philippines in basketball.

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    Egypt nt is planning to participate in Jones Cup this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post
    One of the quotes is pretty funny "They used to have a glorious history, but now they suck, so they only use elbows now."

    It's so funny it's downright hilarious! Just further proof the Philippines has a superior offence compared to CT (please note the litany of final scores all these years)...

    For the Taiwanese media, the truth must really hurt... Filipinos suck so much they never miss: shots go in and even their elbows connect.

    AHAHAHAHA!

    So next time a Taiwanese commentator says a Pinoy player shoots from "the elbow", you know he's not referring to an angle within the painted area straddling the FT stripe.

    Ouch.

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    Congressman na pala si Chen Chi Lung sa Taiwan

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