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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless View Post
    I've always wondered. San Beda has arguably the most solid high school basketball program in the Philippines. But why do a lot of their players transfer after they graduate? You can't say that San Beda does not have the "recruiting capacity" of elite schools like the "blue" and the "green" and recently "the dawgs" from the "other college league". San Beda, like the "blue team" in the "other league", is "gifted" and supported by a "Magnanimous and Valuable Person". Their school is also known for class-A education. So why do a lof of their high school players still transfer?
    No guaranteed spots on team A....too many players....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless View Post
    Anyone know any info about these?

    1. Did the twins really go back to San Beda? If this is true, doesn't it sound like too much of a coincidence that the "Most Valuable Person" of the "blue team" in the "other league" also walked away?
    2. So are the twins eligible to play for the Red Lions again?
    3. Whatever happened to the former blue chipper from the JRU high school basketball program, Agovida?
    4. Will that flashy Fil-Am guard of San Beda who left the team before the start of the season ever come back and play for the Red Lions? I saw him in a couple of pre-season games. Kinda reminded me of former San Beda superstar Boybits Victoria. Not too tall, very athletic, good handles, flashy.
    1-2. The twins came back to San Beda way before MVP cut ties with ADMU. I believe they were already in Mendiola before the season started. Yes, they'll be eligible to play next season if both parties are amenable.
    3. He's with Arellano.
    4. He's in the line-up for Boracay Rhum in the D-League. He's just waiting for his papers since he's a Fil-Am.

    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless View Post
    I've always wondered. San Beda has arguably the most solid high school basketball program in the Philippines. But why do a lot of their players transfer after they graduate? You can't say that San Beda does not have the "recruiting capacity" of elite schools like the "blue" and the "green" and recently "the dawgs" from the "other college league". San Beda, like the "blue team" in the "other league", is "gifted" and supported by a "Magnanimous and Valuable Person". Their school is also known for class-A education. So why do a lof of their high school players still transfer?
    This is your easiest question. Simply put, there's no available slot for them in Team A and they're too talented to waste a year in Team B. I can't blame them since these are kids raring to show their wares in college.

    Guys like Gotladera, Chavez and Javier graduated at a time when our line-up were 3 deep at almost all positions. Only Amer was given a sure slot for Team A. We'll have another batch of talented graduating Red Cubs, but with our talents in Teams A and B, I expect them to play elsewhere. Good luck to them. Once a Bedan, always a Bedan.

    On the other hand, a former Red Cub Abatayo chose to stay and spend a year in Team B rather than grab a Team A slot elsewhere. He probably recognized that it's not yet his time, and he has to improve his jump shot to be effective at the next level. He also saw what happened to his former kuyas Dan Sara and Ludovice who grabbed Team A slots elsewhere, only to go back to San Beda. Gotladera is rotting on the GA's bench and if he had waited, he would have had his chance next year with Pascual graduating. Chavez, last I heard, is doing residency in Letran. Only Javier's risk paid off. I've always thought that he has the potential to succeed in the next level because he has more moves than Gotladera.

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    That's one downside to the successful San Beda program, they can't keep all the talent they are able to discover and hone. Doesn't seem to be a problem though as long as they win. BTW Altamirano seems to like the Bedan program...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mangangalakal View Post
    That's one downside to the successful San Beda program, they can't keep all the talent they are able to discover and hone. Doesn't seem to be a problem though as long as they win. BTW Altamirano seems to like the Bedan program...
    Not really a problem as long as we're winning both in the Juniors and Seniors divisions. Sure, our HS program honed these Red Cubs and it's a shame that other schools benefit at the next level. But the same Red Cubs already did a huge service by bringing championships to Taytay.

    Besides, the same successful program helped us at the next level where guys like Lanete, Menor, Hermida, Marcelo, Taganas and countless others have helped us win championships.

    A good scenario would be for all Red Cubs to fall in line in our pipeline, but of course, we can't hold them back. Thanks for your service to San Beda, and we hope that you'll be successful at the next level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilipinoDad View Post
    Not really a problem as long as we're winning both in the Juniors and Seniors divisions. Sure, our HS program honed these Red Cubs and it's a shame that other schools benefit at the next level. But the same Red Cubs already did a huge service by bringing championships to Taytay.

    Besides, the same successful program helped us at the next level where guys like Lanete, Menor, Hermida, Marcelo, Taganas and countless others have helped us win championships.

    A good scenario would be for all Red Cubs to fall in line in our pipeline, but of course, we can't hold them back. Thanks for your service to San Beda, and we hope that you'll be successful at the next level.
    sir would you know how tall Mocon and Tolentino are? At their rate of development, someday these guys would be NT calibre. TIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by mangangalakal View Post
    sir would you know how tall Mocon and Tolentino are? At their rate of development, someday these guys would be NT calibre. TIA
    I'm not 100% sure, but I think Mocon is 6'3 and Tolentino is 6'4 or 6'5. Mocon needs to grow a couple of inches more if he wants to use his skillset at the next level. On the other hand, Tolentino can play SF in college right now and it won't be a problem. I shudder to think how another year of playing for the Red Cubs will help his development. Reroma is basically Badolato 2.0, so these players really develop.

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    Reroma = badolato 2.0?

    It's not what i'm hearing from his assistant coaches....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ticket View Post
    Reroma = badolato 2.0?

    It's not what i'm hearing from his assistant coaches....
    He'd better be, or else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ticket View Post
    Reroma = badolato 2.0?

    It's not what i'm hearing from his assistant coaches....
    Haha! Looks like you know something I don't.

    That was just my observation. He looks like a younger Badolato out there - a strict disciplinarian. Of course, I don't know how good he is with motivating his players. I remember an ex-player of another NCAA team shared a story while he was serving as the commentator of the game that when they see Ato get off his chair, they lose hope even if they're leading by 10 because they know that the Red Cubs will suddenly go on overdrive.

    Anyway, Reroma's still young and he plays a huge part in convincing the RCs to stay since he also serves as an assistant of the RLs. I heard Batolato doesn't do recruitment for the RL when he was still the HC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilipinoDad View Post
    He left Behold, probably because of too much talents in the pipeline.



    And Serjue, who people said are more talented than Forrester. He just got injured before the season.

    I admire AU for their recruitment efforts. They don't resort to crab mentality. They just upped their recruitment, instead of forcing better teams to lower theirs.
    That will make AU more competitive next year. Interesting. Will see how far they could go

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    All’s well that ends well for Red Lions
    by Jude Roque

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    Exactly a week after the San Beda Red Lions successfully defended their NCAA men's basketball crown against a gallant Letran Knights side, I can't help but ponder over the team's tumultuous journey this year. The victory on October 26 that gave San Beda a second three-peat in the last seven years, and a record-breaking 17th title over-all in the country's oldest cage league is a fitting reward to this young band of Bedans that had to endure so much mental agony since the beginning of this year.

    Right after they won the NCAA crown last year, also in late October, things started to go downhill for the Lions. Just a week later, the Semerad twins, Anthony and David, packed their bags and were reportedly headed to the Ateneo Blue Eagles' camp. Anthony was an integral part of the team's offense, being among its top gunners. David was instrumental in Game 2 of the 2011 finals where he emerged the best player. The twins gave various reasons for leaving the team after two triumphant seasons.

    Then on December 2, an ugly brawl erupted in the SBC gym during an NCAA volleyball game, which caused most of the damage to the Red Lions. A racial slur against Nigerian import Olaide Adeogun by members of the San Sebastian men's volleyball team reportedly ignited the fracas between then Red Lions coach Frankie Lim and SSC volleyball coach Roger Gorayeb. The incident caused a two-year ban on Lim and Gorayeb by the NCAA. Lim resigned shortly after the league announced the ban in March of this year. He led SBC to four championships in the NCAA.

    And so, the Red Lions were like orphans for a time, just a few months before the 88th Season of the NCAA commenced. Top patron Manny V. Pangilinan (MVP) and San Beda officials scampered to find an immediate replacement for Lim. Former Red Cub ace point guard Ronnie Magsanoc was the unanimous choice. Magsanoc also serves as first assistant coach in Pangilinan's Meralco Bolts PBA team.

    Reluctant at first, Magsanoc took the challenge of leading the two-time defending champions. One of the greatest 25 PBA players of all time, Magsanoc had to make painstaking adjustments in his schedule to take care of the team. And so did the Red Lions. The daily practice was being held as early as 6:30 a.m. as Magsanoc and deputies Xavy Nunag and Patrick Fran needed to be at the Meralco gym by 9:00 a.m. for the Bolts' training.

    The next two months would be tough as the team was still in the getting-to-know-you stage. Just two weeks after Magsanoc took over, the Red Lions already had to play in the Fil-Oil Cup pre-season tournament. He barely had time to introduce his system and coaching philosophy.

    Then, in its annual training camp in the U.S., the team suffered another big blow. Fil-Am sensation Julius Armon, who was the Red Lions' top scorer in the Fil-Oil Cup, left the Los Angeles hotel where the team was billeted and never returned. Armon was supposed to be the next Garvo Lanete. He was a deadly sniper from downtown. He was a scoring machine. Without Lanete, Anthony Semerad, the sweet-shooting Mar Villahermosa, and Armon, the Lions looked feeble in offense. Combo guard Baser Amer would be the next best scoring option. But he is not known for his shooting.

    Just a week before the opening of the NCAA season, long-time team manager Mike Advani, a successful businessman and former Red Lion, likewise resigned. His ever-growing businesses required more of his attention, and managing the team took a lot of his time. Again they needed an immediate replacement. While watching the opening game between the Knights and the Stags on TV, I got a call from MVP himself asking if I would be interested in the job. Honestly, I was hoping for another coaching stint in one of his teams, after serving as deputy to Serbian coach Rajko Toroman in the Smart Gilas National Team. But the opportunity to serve my alma mater once more presented itself. And you don't think twice when you get an offer from MVP.

    The Red Lions, the defending champs in the last two years, did not see action on opening day for the first time since 2006. The league also slapped a one-game suspension on eight Lions, and a four-game ban on Adeogun, as a result of the brawl in December. So on the second day of the tournament, six Red Lions had to face a dangerous Arellano Chiefs team. But the "Super Six" defied the odds and scored an impressive 81-71 win to start the season for the Lions. It was unexpected, even unthinkable. But the team pulled through, despite playing with its third unit, and five rookies out of the six.

    As expected, this season became the toughest for the Red Lions in the last seven years, even including the one they lost to San Sebastian in 2009. They still finished in first place after the elimination round, but this time with three losses. The Lions never had more than two defeats in the elims since 2006. This year, they lost once to the Perpetual Help Altas, and twice to the San Sebastian Stags. They also had several tight matches this season, including the second round encounters with Arellano and Emilio Aguinaldo. The semis game against the Altas was also a struggle, and the Lions barely escaped with the win.

    Then came the big dance. Letran was on a hot eight-game winning streak, including back-to-back victories in the semis against the twice-to-beat San Sebastian. Game 1 was close, with San Beda narrowly edging the Knights, 62-60. But the Knights bounced back strong in Game 2, totally outplaying the Lions to even the series with a convincing 64-55 win. Now Letran gained the momentum heading into the winner-take-all match.

    The pressure was overwhelming. That big Game 2 loss was devastating as everybody in Mendiola expected to party that day. But it was not meant to happen. Not yet. Over at Muralla, the spirit was high. The Knights finally solved the puzzle and beat the Lions after four tries.

    A few days before the grand finale, MVP suggested for the team to stay together for a night. We stayed at the Crowne Plaza in Ortigas. That evening, the team went to see the movie "Argo" at nearby Galleria. It was a film about an almost impossible mission to get six U.S. diplomats out of Tehran during the 1979 Iran hostage crisis. Like the story, the team also had its own tough mission to accomplish in a few days. MVP came later that night along with Maynilad president Ricky Vargas, Maynilad vice-president Patrick Gregorio and Smart Gilas coach Chot Reyes to see the boys.

    In Game 3, the Lions were all fired-up. From the opening tip, they immediately seized control of the game and never looked back. The Lions scored their biggest win of the season via a surprising 28-point shellacking of the Knights, 67-39. In one fateful day, all the heartaches disappeared.

    The struggles of the Red Lions in the last ten months are now part of history. In the end, these struggles just made the victory a lot sweeter. This 17th crown and third in a row is a tribute to the Lions' strong resolve and faith.

    Now, the Red Lions can look forward to better days. With only Jake Pascual, Melo Lim and Anjo Caram graduating this year, the team remains competitive and capable of extending its dynasty in the NCAA.

    And yes, the Semerads are back.


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    As expected, Chito Victolero is no longer with Mapua. Who will takeover?

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    From what I have heard, Kevin Alas won't be back..
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    ^How about Almazan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slasher View Post
    As expected, Chito Victolero is no longer with Mapua. Who will takeover?
    Heard jack santiago is one of the choices...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ticket View Post
    Heard jack santiago is one of the choices...
    A Jack Santiago coaching the Cardinals would mean two Pumaren-backed teams in the NCAA. We all know the phenomenal change in the game of Jose Rizal University under Coach Vergel Meneses - and we all know Meneses isn't really the brains behind the JRU change of direction. With Santiago being considered, then Pumaren might be behind the scene once more for the team...

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    Finally, a coaching change for Mapua. Hayyy
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    Mapua coach Chito Victolero resigns from Cardinals post
    Mia Rengie Angela Domingo, InterAKTV · Monday, November 5, 2012 · 8:12 pm

    After missing out on a final four slot and finishing in seventh place in Season 88 of the NCAA, the Mapua Institute of Technology Cardinals will be looking to take a different direction come next season.

    They will start by looking for a fresh, new head coach to handle the men’s seniors basketball team.

    Mapua coach Chito Victolero, who started coaching the Cardinals in 2009, vacated his post as head coach last week after a four-year stint with the team.

    According to a source, Victolero was on the verge of getting axed by school administration after the latter decided not to renew his expiring contract. However, the coach called it quits before Mapua administration could inform him of the decision in a scheduled meeting.

    “Nung end of October nag-expire ang contract (of Victolero) pero October 29 siya nagpaalam sa team,” another source told InterAKTV in a text message.

    “Ginather niya ang team sa AVR room nun for a meeting daw. Then sabi niya na bad news guys, mag-se-separate ways na tayo. Wag sana kayo malungkot kasi may ibig sabihin ito. Something good will come out of it.”

    Acting as interim coach for the moment is Mapua Red Robins coach Randy Alcantara, who was also an assistant coach of the Cardinals with Victolero.

    According to reports, former Mapua coach Horacio Lim, who handled the squad from 2001-2006, and Bong Ramos have already submitted their applications for the coaching job. Yong Garcia, also an assistant coach of Victolero’s in Mapua, apparently expressed his intent to coach the seniors team as well.

    Leo Isaac, who last coached the Arellano Chiefs in 2009-2011 in the NCAA, handled the Cardinals in 2007 and 2008 before Victolero replaced him.

    The Mapua Cardinals are set to play in the wildcard phase of the 2012 Philippine Collegiate Champions League this coming Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. On Tuesday, they will be facing the CEU Scorpions, who are coincidentally coached by Garcia.
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    as of now, no idea brother.. But I guess he will be back and at the same time he will apply for the PBA draft next season..
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    It's his turn to shine next year if Kevin won't be back. He'll be a first round pick for sure if he can avoid his "extra curricular activities". Anyway I hope he can add some muscles in the offseason

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