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    Time to create this thread.
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    Time to create this thread.
    Expect another boring one
    If there is no basketball in heaven, i am NOT going.

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    New faces, mega deals raise hope of banner season for pro league

    FOLLOWING a lively offseason of wheeling and dealing that saw most of the 10 ball clubs retool their rosters, PBA commissioner Chito Salud is optimistic the pro league is headed for another banner year when it unveils its 38th season on Sunday at the Smart Araneta Coliseum.

    Salud believes the pro league is poised to break the more than P100 million in revenues it generated from gate receipts alone last season – thanks to more balanced lineups, new faces adorning the top teams, and the entry of blue-chip rookies this campaign.

    “Our product is the game and the game is our product. We’re looking forward with excitement that we could build on the gains we had from last season,” beamed Salud during Wednesday’s press launch of the new season at the Diamond Hotel.

    Salud said top overall rookie pick June Mar Fajardo, last season’s NCAA MVP Calvin Abueva, Fil-Americans Alex Mallari, Cliff Hodge, Chris Ellis and Keith Jensen, and former Smart Gilas standout Aldrech Ramos will bring added excitement to the pro league with their athleticism and youthful zeal.

    “Our fans have clearly spoken. They want a fast-paced game and they want balanced competition. Year in and year out, they are also looking for rookies who will challenge the status quo. I feel these are the elements that we can build on for this coming season,” added Salud, who will be teaming up with incoming board chairman Robert Non.

    The season will kick off with a colorful opening ceremonies beginning at 4:30 p.m., highlighted by a tribute to the Smart Gilas 2.0 team of coach Chot Reyes, which won the William Jones Cup last month, ending the country’s 14-year title drought in the Taipei tournament.

    The lone game set at 6 p.m. will be between souped-up Barangay Ginebra San Miguel and newcomer Global Port, owned by sportsmans-businessman Mikee Romero.

    In a bid to make the pro game more exciting and fast-paced, Salud has announced a couple of new rules, including one that will now allow a player who dives for a loose ball to slide on the floor without being whistled for a traveling infraction.

    The son of former PBA commissioner Rudy Salud, explained that the new rule “gives credit to the hustle plays displayed by a player without nipping the fans’ excitement.”

    The inter-intra format will be in place in the elimination round, with the 10 teamsdivided into two groups. Each team will play its group mates once and the teams in the other group twice.

    Group A consists of Air21, Meralco, Petron Blaze, Barangay Ginebra San Miguel and San Mig Coffee (formerly B-Meg Derby Ace) while Group B will be made up of defending Philippine Cup champion Talk ‘N Text, Alaska, Barako Bull, Rain or Shine and newcomer Global Port.
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    Interesting team this conference Petro with Toroman with the core of Fajardo, Lutz, Lassiter and Cabagnot as for me Arwind and Jwash are pita in Toromans scheme of things
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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    Interesting team this conference Petro with Toroman with the core of Fajardo, Lutz, Lassiter and Cabagnot as for me Arwind and Jwash are pita in Toromans scheme of things
    but in racela's?

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    gonna watch the ROS vs Petron in Araneta! hope JF plays alot. One of my to do list while I am in Manila...
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    Eliminations
    Date Time # Dark Uniform - Light Uniform Venue Score
    December 09, 2012 6:30PM 70 Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters vs Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    December 09, 2012 4:15PM 69 Meralco Bolts vs San Mig Coffee Mixers Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    December 07, 2012 7:30PM 68 San Mig Coffee Mixers vs Globalport Batang Pier MOA Arena -
    December 07, 2012 5:15PM 67 Barako Bull Energy Cola vs Rain or Shine Elasto Painters MOA Arena -
    December 05, 2012 7:30PM 66 Petron Blaze Boosters vs Alaska Aces Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    December 05, 2012 5:15PM 65 Globalport Batang Pier vs Air21 Express Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    December 02, 2012 6:30PM 64 Rain or Shine Elasto Painters vs San Mig Coffee Mixers Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    December 02, 2012 4:15PM 63 Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings vs Barako Bull Energy Cola Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    December 01, 2012 6:30PM 62 Alaska Aces vs Globalport Batang Pier Dipolog City -
    November 30, 2012 7:30PM 61 Air21 Express vs Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 30, 2012 5:15PM 60 Barako Bull Energy Cola vs Meralco Bolts Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 28, 2012 7:30PM 59 Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters vs Petron Blaze Boosters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 28, 2012 5:15PM 58 Meralco Bolts vs Alaska Aces Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 25, 2012 6:30PM 57 Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings vs Rain or Shine Elasto Painters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 25, 2012 4:15PM 56 Air21 Express vs Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 24, 2012 6:30PM 55 Petron Blaze Boosters vs Barako Bull Energy Cola Puerto Princesa / Iloilo -
    November 23, 2012 7:30PM 54 San Mig Coffee Mixers vs Air21 Express Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 23, 2012 5:15PM 53 Globalport Batang Pier vs Meralco Bolts Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 21, 2012 7:30PM 52 Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters vs San Mig Coffee Mixers Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 21, 2012 5:15PM 51 Meralco Bolts vs Rain or Shine Elasto Painters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 18, 2012 6:30PM 50 Alaska Aces vs Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 18, 2012 4:15PM 49 Globalport Batang Pier vs Petron Blaze Boosters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 17, 2012 6:30PM 48 Rain or Shine Elasto Painters vs Air21 Express Tubod Lanao del Norte -
    November 16, 2012 7:30PM 47 Meralco Bolts vs Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 16, 2012 5:15PM 46 San Mig Coffee Mixers vs Barako Bull Energy Cola Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 14, 2012 7:30PM 45 Petron Blaze Boosters vs Rain or Shine Elasto Painters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 14, 2012 5:15PM 44 Air21 Express vs Alaska Aces Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 11, 2012 6:30PM 43 Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters vs Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings MOA Arena -
    November 11, 2012 4:15PM 42 Meralco Bolts vs Petron Blaze Boosters MOA Arena -
    November 10, 2012 6:30PM 41 Alaska Aces vs San Mig Coffee Mixers Lapu-Lapu City -
    November 09, 2012 7:30PM 40 Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings vs Globalport Batang Pier MOA Arena -
    November 09, 2012 5:15PM 39 Air21 Express vs Barako Bull Energy Cola MOA Arena -
    November 07, 2012 7:30PM 38 Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters vs Petron Blaze Boosters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 07, 2012 5:15PM 37 Rain or Shine Elasto Painters vs Alaska Aces Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 04, 2012 7:30PM 36 San Mig Coffee Mixers vs Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 04, 2012 5:15PM 35 Meralco Bolts vs Rain or Shine Elasto Painters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 04, 2012 3:00PM 34 Barako Bull Energy Cola vs Globalport Batang Pier Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 02, 2012 7:30PM 33 Alaska Aces vs Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    November 02, 2012 5:15PM 32 Petron Blaze Boosters vs Air21 Express Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 31, 2012 7:30PM 31 Barako Bull Energy Cola vs Meralco Bolts Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 31, 2012 5:15PM 30 Globalport Batang Pier vs San Mig Coffee Mixers Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 28, 2012 6:30PM 29 Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings vs Alaska Aces Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 28, 2012 4:15PM 28 San Mig Coffee Mixers vs Barako Bull Energy Cola Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 27, 2012 6:30PM 27 Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters vs Rain or Shine Elasto Painters Victorias City -
    October 26, 2012 7:30PM 26 Globalport Batang Pier vs Petron Blaze Boosters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 26, 2012 5:15PM 25 Alaska Aces vs Air21 Express Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 24, 2012 7:30PM 24 Rain or Shine Elasto Painters vs San Mig Coffee Mixers Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 24, 2012 5:15PM 23 Barako Bull Energy Cola vs Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 21, 2012 6:30PM 22 Petron Blaze Boosters vs Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings MOA Arena -
    October 21, 2012 4:15PM 21 Air21 Express vs Meralco Bolts MOA Arena -
    October 20, 2012 8:00PM 20 San Mig Coffee Mixers vs Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters MOA Arena -
    October 20, 2012 5:45PM 19 Rain or Shine Elasto Painters vs Globalport Batang Pier MOA Arena -
    October 19, 2012 7:30PM 18 Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings vs Barako Bull Energy Cola MOA Arena -
    October 19, 2012 5:15PM 17 Alaska Aces vs Petron Blaze Boosters MOA Arena -
    October 17, 2012 7:30PM 16 Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters vs Air21 Express MOA Arena -
    October 17, 2012 5:15PM 15 Globalport Batang Pier vs Meralco Bolts MOA Arena -
    October 14, 2012 6:30PM 14 Petron Blaze Boosters vs San Mig Coffee Mixers Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 14, 2012 4:15PM 13 Barako Bull Energy Cola vs Alaska Aces Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 13, 2012 6:00PM 12 Meralco Bolts vs Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings Digos City -
    October 12, 2012 7:30PM 11 Air21 Express vs Rain or Shine Elasto Painters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 12, 2012 5:15PM 10 Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters vs Globalport Batang Pier Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 10, 2012 7:30PM 9 Barako Bull Energy Cola vs Petron Blaze Boosters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 10, 2012 5:15PM 8 Alaska Aces vs Meralco Bolts Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 07, 2012 6:30PM 7 Rain or Shine Elasto Painters vs Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 07, 2012 4:15PM 6 Globalport Batang Pier vs Air21 Express Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 05, 2012 7:30PM 5 San Mig Coffee Mixers vs Alaska Aces Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 05, 2012 5:15PM 4 Meralco Bolts vs Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 03, 2012 7:30PM 3 Petron Blaze Boosters vs Rain or Shine Elasto Painters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 03, 2012 5:15PM 2 Air21 Express vs Barako Bull Energy Cola Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    September 30, 2012 6:00PM 1 Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings vs Globalport Batang Pier Smart Araneta Coliseum -
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    http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/371056...here-was-bonel

    The Dugout
    PBA: Before Junmar, there was Bonel
    By Brian Yalung
    August 25, 2012, 11:16pm

    Manila, Philippines - 20 years ago, the PBA welcomed into the league a man-mountain named Bonel Balingit. Back then, the 6-foot-9 behemoth drew attention mainly due to his large size and height, the tallest at that time in the Philippine Basketball Association.

    Just last week, another big man officially entered the league. He is Junmar Fajardo, another 6-foot-9 center who hails from Cebu and had stints with the University of Cebu Webmasters and the San Miguel Beermen at the Asean Basketball League (ABL).

    So what do these two behemoths have in common? Well they are joining powerhouse clubs and have their work cut out for them as far as expectations is concerned.

    Unlike Fajardo (who was the top pick for the class of 2012), Balingit was drafted 11th in the 1992 PBA draft by the Swift Mighty Meaties then under coach Derrick Pumaren. Among the familiar names during that year included top pick Vergel Meneses (then drafted by Presto Ice Cream) who would later on become his teammate with Swift in the latter year of 1993.

    In his rookie year, Balingit barely made some noise in the PBA. In fact, it was only in 1995 when Bonel made an impact, particularly in the 1995 PBA All-Filipino Conference.

    Balingit played a pivotal role in game seven of the PBA All Filipino finals for the Sunkist Orange ballclub that year, combining with an ailing Vergel Meneses, Yoyoy Villamin and Ric-ric Marata to win in overtime, 87-78, over an equally talented Alaska Milk squad.

    That year, Alaska had the likes of Jojo Lastimosa, Bong Hawkins, Jeffrey Cariaso and Johnny Abarrientos at the helm.

    It was actually Balingit who sparkled in the extra period for Sunkist. Balingit flexed his muscles underneath and scored six of their first seven points in overtime as he joined hands with Marata to hand the RFM franchise their first All Filipino plum and 3rd PBA title.

    In the 1995 PBA Commissioner’s Cup, Bonel copped his 4th title with the franchise as Sunkist once again defeated Alaska, 4-2 in the finals. Reinforcing them that year was Ronnie Grandison who would later on be adjudged Best Import of the Conference.

    During the PBA awarding ceremonies, Balingit made it to the PBA mythical second team together with teammates Boybits Victoria and Nelson Asaytono. They were joined by Jojo Lastimosa (Alaska) and Alvin Patrimonio (Purefoods). Vergel Meneses was named the MVP that year.

    But everything went haywire after that, and Bonel never went farther than what he achieved in 1995.

    After that breakout year, it was all downward for Bonel as far as professional basketball was concerned. He did suit up for other teams like Tanduay and Purefoods but unfortunately the man-mountain was never able to improve on that showing after 10 years in the PBA.

    Balingit’s last season was in 2002 and ever since, Bonel has been a fixture in comedy films and some TV sitcoms.

    So what does this have to do with Fajardo? Well aside from joining powerhouse teams, it would be wise for Junmar to take into consideration Bonel’s PBA ride. And considering that Fajardo will have to go up against more taller PBA players compared to the time of Bonel, makes the task doubly harder too.

    Although still young at the age of 23, Fajardo will have to work harder if he is to survive in the professional league. He may have shown his toughness in the ABL but the PBA is far more different and physical. So does Junmar have what it takes to survive with the PBA big (and bad) boys?

    Fajardo is still young and can still evolve. Many have compare him to other greats but a large chunk of his success will be up to him. This means improving his game mentally and physically, something direly needed to survive in the PBA wars.

    Balingit hit his stride 3 years after entering the PBA but nosedived thereafter. Injuries and distractions were partly to blame and Fajardo may do well to take heed of this behemoth’s career.

    Either that or Junmar Fajardo would truly remain mythical, a Kraken which some have recently tied up with his name.

    But at the ripe age of 23, Fajardo has a long way to go and with the guidance of veterans over at the Petron camp, it may be wise to take their advice seriously especially when it comes to the PBA brand of play.
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    October 05, 2012 7:30PM 5 San Mig Coffee Mixers vs Alaska Aces Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 05, 2012 5:15PM 4 Meralco Bolts vs Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 03, 2012 7:30PM 3 Petron Blaze Boosters vs Rain or Shine Elasto Painters Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    October 03, 2012 5:15PM 2 Air21 Express vs Barako Bull Energy Cola Smart Araneta Coliseum -
    September 30, 2012 6:00PM 1 Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Kings vs Globalport Batang Pier Smart Araneta Coliseum
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    ROS vs Petron agad on Wednesday!
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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
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    ROS vs Petron agad on Wednesday!
    Yessir! Gonna watch live! sana sa MOA Arena nalang. But it's ok.
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    PBA 38th Season: Philippine Cup Format
    1. Two-round eliminations, with each team playing 14 games. The teams are divided into two groups on the basis of their draft order prior to the trades. Each team will play teams within their group once, while they will play teams from the other group twice.

    Group A

    Air21 Express
    Meralco Bolts
    Petron Blaze Boosters
    Barangay Ginebra San Miguel
    San Mig Coffee Mixers

    Group B

    Alaska Aces
    Barako Bull Energy Cola
    Globalport Batang Pier
    Rain or Shine Elasto Painters
    Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters

    2. Top eight teams will advance to the quarterfinals. In case of tie, playoffs will be held only for the #2 and #8 seeds.
    Quarterfinals:
    -QF1: #1 seed vs #8 seed (#1 seed twice-to-beat)
    -QF2: #2 seed vs #7 seed (#2 seed twice-to-beat)
    -QF3: #3 seed vs #6 seed (best-of-3 series)
    -QF4: #4 seed vs #5 seed (best-of-3 series)

    3. Semifinals (best-of-7 series):
    -SF1: QF1 vs. QF4 winners
    -SF2: QF2 vs. QF3 winners

    4. Finals (best-of-7 series)
    - Winners of the semifinals

    http://ginebratambayan.hooxs.com/t23...ine-cup-format

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR. FAST View Post
    PBA 38th Season: Philippine Cup Format
    1. Two-round eliminations, with each team playing 14 games. The teams are divided into two groups on the basis of their draft order prior to the trades. Each team will play teams within their group once, while they will play teams from the other group twice.

    Group A

    Air21 Express
    Meralco Bolts
    Petron Blaze Boosters
    Barangay Ginebra San Miguel
    San Mig Coffee Mixers

    Group B

    Alaska Aces
    Barako Bull Energy Cola
    Globalport Batang Pier
    Rain or Shine Elasto Painters
    Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters

    2. Top eight teams will advance to the quarterfinals. In case of tie, playoffs will be held only for the #2 and #8 seeds.
    Quarterfinals:
    -QF1: #1 seed vs #8 seed (#1 seed twice-to-beat)
    -QF2: #2 seed vs #7 seed (#2 seed twice-to-beat)
    -QF3: #3 seed vs #6 seed (best-of-3 series)
    -QF4: #4 seed vs #5 seed (best-of-3 series)

    3. Semifinals (best-of-7 series):
    -SF1: QF1 vs. QF4 winners
    -SF2: QF2 vs. QF3 winners

    4. Finals (best-of-7 series)
    - Winners of the semifinals

    http://ginebratambayan.hooxs.com/t23...ine-cup-format
    What's interesting about this format is that the SMC teams are in one group and the "rivals" (or contenders) in the other group meaning we'll have two games each between SMC vs. ROS/TNT just in the elimination round.
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    Kampihan na!!!
    They say Play the right way...
    that right way is European Basketball but USA just won FIBA Championship...
    does it mean that USA basketball is the right way to play basketball???

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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    What's interesting about this format is that the SMC teams are in one group and the "rivals" (or contenders) in the other group meaning we'll have two games each between SMC vs. ROS/TNT just in the elimination round.
    Would have been nicer if the bracketing went this way:

    Group A - Petron, Ginebra, San Mig Coffee, Global, Alaska
    Group B - Meralco, TNT, ROS, Air 21, Barako Bull

    The three SMC teams in one bracket with one independent franchise and another pseudo-SMC team. In Group B, you have two MPIC teams, two Lina teams and one independent team.

    But it would have been nicer to make the teams within the same bracket play twice while playing the teams in the other bracket only once. But perhaps, they were trying to mitigate the risk of sister teams "giving" games to the sibling in need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    Would have been nicer if the bracketing went this way:

    Group A - Petron, Ginebra, San Mig Coffee, Global, Alaska
    Group B - Meralco, TNT, ROS, Air 21, Barako Bull

    The three SMC teams in one bracket with one independent franchise and another pseudo-SMC team. In Group B, you have two MPIC teams, two Lina teams and one independent team.

    But it would have been nicer to make the teams within the same bracket play twice while playing the teams in the other bracket only once. But perhaps, they were trying to mitigate the risk of sister teams "giving" games to the sibling in need.
    i think they arranged it by ranking from the last season's performance? #1 to Group A, #2 to Group B, #3 to Group A, etc... If i am not mistaken, then it's just a coincidence that the SMC sister teams found themselves as groupmates...
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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    i think they arranged it by ranking from the last season's performance? #1 to Group A, #2 to Group B, #3 to Group A, etc... If i am not mistaken, then it's just a coincidence that the SMC sister teams found themselves as groupmates...

    Teams are divided into two groups, based on their 2012 draft order, though without taking into account trades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    i think they arranged it by ranking from the last season's performance? #1 to Group A, #2 to Group B, #3 to Group A, etc... If i am not mistaken, then it's just a coincidence that the SMC sister teams found themselves as groupmates...
    That's correct. That's their procedure in bracketing teams - based on last season's overall performance. Top performer was TNT who went to Group B. Second top performer was San Mig who's with Group A. ROS is 3rd - went to B. BGSM was 4th - went to A.

    Then they interchanged it. Last placed Air 21 went to B, 9th placed Alaska went to Group A, 8th placed Barako went to B, 7th placed Global went to A, 6th placed Meralco went to B and Petron went to A.

    But I may also be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    i think they arranged it by ranking from the last season's performance? #1 to Group A, #2 to Group B, #3 to Group A, etc... If i am not mistaken, then it's just a coincidence that the SMC sister teams found themselves as groupmates...
    That's correct. That's their procedure in bracketing teams - based on last season's overall performance. Top performer was TNT who went to Group B. Second top performer was San Mig who's with Group A. ROS is 3rd - went to B. BGSM was 4th - went to A. 5th, 7th and 9th were Global, Meralco and Alaska - all of whom went to B while the 6th, 8th and 10th placers - Petron, Meralco and Air 21 went to A - assuming I got it right with the placings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR. FAST View Post
    Teams are divided into two groups, based on their 2012 draft order, though without taking into account trades.
    http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...philippine-cup

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