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    Default London Olympics Group Draw [Apr 30 Rio de Janeiro]


    Group A

    Lithuania, Tunisia, USA, France, Nigeria and Argentina.
    Group B

    China, Great Britain, Brazil, Australia, Russia and Spain.
    FIBA Europe

    PG: Tony Parker of France
    SG: Juan Carlos Navarro of Spain
    SF: Andrei Kirilenko of Russia
    PF: Dirk Nowitzki of Germany
    C: Pau Gasol of Spain
    * 1. Spain 10W - 1L
    * 2. France 9W - 2L
    3. Russia 10W - 1L
    4. FYROM 7W - 4L
    5. Lithuania 8W - 3L
    6. Greece 7W - 4L
    7. Slovenia 6W - 5L
    8. Serbia 5W - 6L
    9. Finland 3W - 5L
    9. Germany 4W - 4L
    11. Georgia 2W - 6L
    11. Turkey 3W - 5L
    13. Bulgaria 2W - 3L
    13. Croatia 2W - 3L
    13. Great Britain 2W - 3L
    13. Israel 2W - 3L

    FIBA Americas

    PG: Marcelo Huertas of Brazil
    SG: Carlos Arroyo of Puerto Rico
    SF: Emanuel Ginobili of Argentina
    PF: Luis Scola of Argentina
    C: Al Horford of Dominican Republic
    * 1. Argentina 9W - 1L
    * 2. Brazil 8W - 2L
    3. Dominican Republic 6W - 4L
    4. Puerto Rico 6W - 4L
    5. Venezuela 4W - 4L
    6. Canada 3W - 5L
    7. Uruguay 2W - 6L
    8. Panama 2W - 6L
    9. Cuba 0W - 4L
    10. Paraguay 0W - 4L

    FIBA Asia

    PG: Osama Daghles of Jordan
    SG: Takuya Kawamura of Japan
    SF: Nekkhah Bahrami of Iran
    PF: Yi Jianlian of China
    C: Hamed Haddadi of Iran
    * 1. China 9W - 0L
    2. Jordan 5W - 4L
    3. South Korea 7W - 2L
    4. Philippines 6W - 3L
    5. Iran 8W - 1L
    6. Lebanon 4W - 5L
    7. Japan 5W - 4L
    8. Chinese Taipei 4W - 5L
    9. Syria 8 4W - 4L
    10. UAE 2W - 6L
    11. Malaysia 3W - 5L
    12. Uzbekistan 1W - 7L
    13. Indonesia 2W - 3L
    14. India 1W - 4L
    15. Bahrain 1W - 4L
    16. Qatar 0W - 5L

    FIBA Africa

    PG: Marouana Kechrid of Tunisia
    SG: Carlos Morais of Angola
    SF: Ime Udoka of Nigeria
    PF: Makrem Ben Romdhane of Tunisia
    C: Salah Mejri of Tunisia
    * 1. Tunisia 7W - 0L
    2. Angola 5W - 2L
    3. Nigeria 6W - 1L
    4. Cote d'Ivoire 3W - 4L
    5. Senegal 6W - 1L
    6. CAR 4W - 3L
    7. Cameroon 5W - 2L
    8. Morocco 2W - 5L
    9. Mali 3W - 2L
    10. Mozambique 5 1 - 4
    11. Egypt 2W - 3L
    12. Rwanda 1W - 4L
    13. Madagascar 1W - 4L
    14. South Africa 1W - 4L
    15. Chad 1W - 4L
    16. Togo 0W - 5L

    FIBA Oceania

    * 1. Australia 3W - 0L
    2. New Zealand 0W - 3L

    Olympic Qualifying Tournament

    * 1. Russia 4W - 0L
    * 1. Lithuania 3W - 1L
    * 3. Nigeria 3W - 2L
    4. Dominican Republic 2W - 3L
    5. Greece 2W - 1L
    6. Puerto Rico 1W - 2L
    7. F.Y.R. of Macedonia 1W - 2L
    8. Angola 1W - 2L
    9. Venezuela 1W - 1L
    10. New Zealand 1W - 1L
    11. South Korea 0W - 2L
    12. Jordan 0W - 2L
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    Cote d'Ivore? It wouldnt be on Rio de Janeiro?

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    I don't know about location of the draw, it indeed looks strange. Why not London, the place where it should be made? However probably it doesn't matter much, but seedings are totally random here. I wonder where did you take it from, Kings? Any official source or just you put it randomly by yourself?


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    27/2/2012
    FIBA ESCOLHE RIO PARA SEDE DO SORTEIO OLÍMPICO


    Foto: Romualds Vambuts

    Lubomir KOTLEBA, diretor da FIBA.
    Rio de Janeiro – Além de ser a sede dos Jogos Olímpicos de 2016, o Rio de Janeiro foi escolhido neste mês para ter a honraria de receber os dirigentes da Central Board da Federação Internacional de Basketball (Fiba) para uma das principais reuniões da entidade no ano de 2012. A entidade maior do basquete mundial também irá fazer os sorteios e a ordem dos jogos do basquete para as Olimpíadas de Londres, que serão realizadas no período de 27 de julho a 12 de agosto deste ano. O evento será organizado pelo Comitê Olímpico Brasileiro (COB), com a logística da Confederação Brasileira de Basketball (CBB). Os sorteios e tabela do masculino e feminino, que o Brasil estará presente nos dois, fato que não ocorria desde 1994, em Atlanta (EUA).

    A reunião da Central Board da FIBA, no Rio, será nos dias 28 e 29 de abril e terá o comando do ex-árbitro e atual diretor de competições da Fiba, Lubomir Kotleba, que tem uma relação muito boa com o basquete brasileiro. Ele foi também um dos árbitros que apitou a histórica vitória do Brasil sobre os Estados Unidos na final do Pan-americano de 1987, em Indianápolis (EUA), por 120 a 115, com a Seleção Brasileira ficando com a medalha de ouro.

    Carlos Nunes, presidente da Confederação Brasileira de Basketball, ficou muito feliz de ver a reunião da Central Board da Fiba, no Rio de Janeiro, mas será um convidado de honra do encontro. “É um evento da Fiba e do Comitê Olímpico Brasileiro. Nós, da CBB, vamos ajudar apenas na parte logística do acontecimento e torcer para que tenhamos sorte nos sorteios,” disse o presidente da CBB.

    Paulinho Villas Boas de Almeida, diretor de Relações Institucionais da CBB, adiantou que o Rio de Janeiro irá receber em torno de 50 membros do Bureau Central da Fiba. O local da reunião e do sorteio ainda não foi definido, podendo acontecer no auditório do Comitê Olímpico Brasileiro ou no hotel onde os dirigentes da Fiba irão se hospedar.

    Juarez Araújo
    http://www.cbb.com.br/noticias/showr...sp?Artigo=9358

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    I don't know about location of the draw, it indeed looks strange. Why not London, the place where it should be made? However probably it doesn't matter much, but seedings are totally random here. I wonder where did you take it from, Kings? Any official source or just you put it randomly by yourself?
    Exactly. Brazil making a pair with Tunisia? Terrible...It should be Tunisia + China and Brazil + France, not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by planaria View Post
    Exactly. Brazil making a pair with Tunisia? Terrible...It should be Tunisia + China and Brazil + France, not?
    Tunisia+China yes, not sure about Brazil+France. Before Beijing 2008 draw (the picture below) it was both top European teams in one pair

    draw.JPG


    So now it'd be Spain+France, while back then we had 3 Euro teams, so 3rd was paired with hosts (Lithuania+China), now we have 3 American teams, so I assume it might be Great Britain+Brazil


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    I don't know about location of the draw, it indeed looks strange. Why not London, the place where it should be made? However probably it doesn't matter much, but seedings are totally random here. I wonder where did you take it from, Kings? Any official source or just you put it randomly by yourself?
    http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/na...the_facts.html

    The draw to determine the two preliminary round groups of six teams each is scheduled to be held April 28, 2012, at the FIBA Central Board meeting n the Ivory Coast.

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    Don't know if seedings are accurate, but they're not random. Check the fiba world rankings. Each group is of the highest teams available.

    1 USA
    2 Spain

    3 Argentina
    9 Australia

    10 China
    12 France

    13 Brazil
    32 Tunisia

    43 Great Britain
    Qualifier

    Qualifier
    Qualifier

    Again I don't know if they're right, but it's a definite pattern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    Don't know if seedings are accurate, but they're not random. Check the fiba world rankings. Each group is of the highest teams available.
    I see your point, now it makes little bit more sense, but still I find it quite random, cause the seedings simply just aren't set like that nor in WC, nor in OG. Continental principle is important during the draw - to not have majority teams from one continent in one group, while rankings doesn't has any influence. I really doubt that FIBA would change that, but we'll see


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    If Tunisia and Great Britain end up in one group, the top contender(s) could have an easy run to the knockout stages and have the chance to rest some key players in the run-up.
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    The draw to determine the two preliminary round groups of six teams each is scheduled to be held April 30, 2012, following the FIBA Central Board meeting in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

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    Argentina

    1st at 2011 FIBA Americas Championship for Men: 9 wins/1 defeat | Top scorer: Luis Scola 21.4ppg
    World ranking (men): 3rd | Olympic appearances prior to 2012: 4 | Best Olympic result: 1st (2004)

    Australia

    1st at 2011 FIBA Oceania Championship for Men: 3 wins/0 defeats | Top scorer: Aleksandar Maric 15.7ppg
    World ranking (men): 9th | Olympic appearances prior to 2012: 12 | Best Olympic result: 4th (1988, 1996, 2000)

    Brazil

    2nd at 2011 FIBA Americas Championship for Men: 8 wins/2 defeats | Top scorer: Marcelo Huertas 11.6ppg
    World ranking (men): 13th | Olympic appearances prior to 2012: 13 | Best Olympic result: 3rd (1964, 1960, 1948)

    China

    1st at 2011 FIBA Asia Championship for Men: 9 wins/0 defeats | Top scorer: Yi Jianlian 16.6ppg
    World ranking (men): 10th | Olympic appearances prior to 2012: 9 | Best Olympic result: 8th (1996, 2004, 2008)

    France

    2nd at EuroBasket Men 2011: 9 wins/2 defeats | Top scorer: Tony Parker 22.1ppg
    World ranking (men): 12th | Olympic appearances prior to 2012: 7 | Best Olympic result: 2nd (2000)

    Great Britain

    Qualify as hosts (13th at EuroBasket: 2 win/3 defeats) | (Top scorer at EuroBasket: Luol Deng 24.6ppg)
    World ranking (men): 43rd | Olympic appearances prior to 2012: 1 | Best Olympic result: 20th (1948)

    Spain

    1st at EuroBasket Men 2011: 10 wins/1 defeat | Top scorer: Pau Gasol 20.1ppg
    World ranking (men): 2nd | Olympic appearances prior to 2012: 10 | Best Olympic result: 2nd (1984, 2008)

    Tunisia

    1st at 2011 FIBA Africa Championship for Men: 7 wins/0 defeats | Top scorer: Macram Ben Romdhane 12.7ppg
    World ranking (men): | Olympic appearances prior to 2012: 0 | Best Olympic result: n/a

    USA

    1st at 2010 FIBA World Championship for Men: 9 wins/0 defeats | Top scorer: Kevin Durant 22.8 ppg
    World ranking (men): 1st | Olympic appearances prior to 2012: 16
    Best Olympic result: 1st (1936, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1960, 1968, 1976, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008).

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    What time the draw will start today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart21 View Post
    What time the draw will start today?
    11:00 local time

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    Men:

    Group A

    United States
    France
    Argentina
    Tunisie
    WQ 1
    WQ 2

    Group B

    Spain
    Australia
    Brazil
    China
    Great-Britain
    WQ 3

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    I am definetely happy. Brazil will pass through to the quarter-finals and we wont have to face the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GustavoGanso View Post
    Men:

    Group A

    United States
    France
    Argentina
    Tunisie
    WQ 1
    WQ 2

    Group B

    Spain
    Australia
    Brazil
    China
    Great-Britain
    WQ 3
    Does WQ1 and WQ2 mean we will get the 1st and 2nd place teams from the Olympic Qualifying Tournament? Or do they just qualify 3 teams and then do a draw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCal View Post
    Does WQ1 and WQ2 mean we will get the 1st and 2nd place teams from the Olympic Qualifying Tournament? Or do they just qualify 3 teams and then do a draw?
    The additional draw will be held after qualifiers

    Regarding draw, kinda interesting groups. "A" one looks like little bit stronger with USA bein' clear favorites and Tunisia outsiders. France and Argentina + 2 qualifiers promises an interesting battle for play-offs spots. "B" one looks little bit weaker. Spain should be 1st. China most probably will have to deal with outsiders role. Everything else depends on what kind of rosters will bring GB and Brazil, while Australia without Bogut doesn't look too convincing. I'd say Spain, Brazil and qualified team should be through, while key game will be between Brits and Aussies for the last spot


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    The additional draw will be held after qualifiers

    Regarding draw, kinda interesting groups. "A" one looks like little bit stronger with USA bein' clear favorites and Tunisia outsiders. France and Argentina + 2 qualifiers promises an interesting battle for play-offs spots. "B" one looks little bit weaker. Spain should be 1st. China most probably will have to deal with outsiders role. Everything else depends on what kind of rosters will bring GB and Brazil, while Australia without Bogut doesn't look too convincing. I'd say Spain, Brazil and qualified team should be through, while key game will be between Brits and Aussies for the last spot
    its 3 slots, I don't know if is like Pre-Olympic final order... don't think so.

    if Brazil plays with all players incluiding Nene, maybe a chance for 2nd place in best of chances, but a 3rd would be a more solid result... let's see what european will came to our group.

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    Group A looks to have gotten the stronger team from five of the six pairs. Not necessarily a bad thing since it means a more favorable knockout stage draw.
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