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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ticket View Post
    pamboy raymundo successfully did his job in 14 seconds!
    and only called a technical by the refs, even it clearly showed his elbow to Urbiztondo's face!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryotek View Post
    and only called a technical by the refs, even it clearly showed his elbow to Urbiztondo's face!!!
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    Didnt chot put oreta & yee in last year's 3rd conf finals to hurt the petron players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ticket View Post
    Didnt chot put oreta & yee in last year's 3rd conf finals to hurt the petron players?
    i think it was only Yee. doing a kwan yong jin move. squeeze the balls of anthony grundy.
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    Chot Reyes sent in third-string rookie point guard Pamboy Raymundo late in Talk ‘N Text’s Game Four victory over B-MEG with the hope of ending the game quietly.

    That wasn’t quite what happened.

    With just 1:47 left in the game and Talk ‘N Text comfortably ahead, 96-81, Raymundo flew in with an elbow to B-MEG point guard Josh Urbiztondo, leading to tempers flaring. During the scrum, Joe Devance threw the ball at Raymundo, who responded by hitting the Llamados forward at the back of his head.

    After several minutes, officials called two penalty one flagrant fouls on Raymundo, leading to his ejection. Devance was also called for a flagrant foul penalty two and was also sent off, while Urbiztondo was called for a technical foul.

    During the lull, Raymundo was shown on the arena’s big screen, leading the pro-B-MEG crowd to rain down boos on Raymundo. Some 18,696 fans attended the game, the biggest crowd this season for the PBA.

    Moments after the game, B-MEG coach Tim Cone was still steaming from the Raymundo incident.

    “I’m upset with the fact that Raymundo got off so lightly with what he did. I know Chot, and that’s not his intention to send somebody out to start a fight with a better player,” said Cone.

    “But you have to have those guys under control. There’s no excuse for Raymundo to come out on the floor and in his first possession, throw an elbow and hit someone on the head. If he’s going to do that, he shouldn’t be on someone’s bench.”

    B-MEG guard Jonas Villanueva wasn’t quite as diplomatic. In a post on his Twitter account, he alluded to Raymundo’s actions.

    “Don’t know anyone who, with the game already over, one minute left, would come into the game and try to hurt somebody. Who would do that? Unless someone asked him to,” said Villanueva.

    The Raymundo scuffle led to Cone exchanging words with members of the Talk ‘N Text coaching staff.

    “Parang nagkasagutan yata sila ni Coach Nash,” said Reyes. “I don’t know what they talked about, hindi ko pa nakakausap si Coach Nash. But that’s just unfortunate that an incident like that happened in the end game when basically the outcome was decided already.”

    “But it’s the finals. Emotions are high. Everybody’s on edge. So it’s just going to be dependent on which team will be able to keep its composure, and keep its cool, and its focus, through all the turbulence that accompanies any kind of finals series.”

    Cone, meanwhile, gave credit to Talk ‘N Text for the win.

    “Bottomline was they came out and played with a high level of desperation that we didn’t match and respond to throughout the game. I need to do a better job of preparing our guys of playing in the finals, I did a horrible job tonight,” he said.
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    Pamboy, very unprofessional player...
    he doesn't deserved to be n the league

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    Ron Artest is contagious..hehehehe Pamboy good Job bro TNT fans Loves u..

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    LOL at Pamboy Palaboy. At least he didn't fractured anyone's orbital bone this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    with this. a possible 1 game suspension for him at game 5. and JDV will probably get a suspension as well. Minimal effect for TNT, Major effect for B-meg.
    dont think de vance will be suspended. this confy's import of petron also throws the ball to an opposing player (the head in particular) and was called for a FF2 and ejected but was not suspended right? i think that when salud reviews the tape, although de vance deserved the FF2 because the rules says so, he does not deserve a suspension based on the intensity and gravity of his action. raymundo though deserves a suspension and a hefty fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryotek View Post
    and only called a technical by the refs, even it clearly showed his elbow to Urbiztondo's face!!!
    he was not called for a technical on that play. the refs did not see the play and they can no longer call a foul on it just because they have seen it in the replay.

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    What i am afraid of (well, disappointed could be the better term) is that Cone won't retaliate. He's too classy for that.

    (As you see i want to see a full blown brawl by Game Five but it's not happening.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    What i am afraid of (well, disappointed could be the better term) is that Cone won't retaliate. He's too classy for that.

    (As you see i want to see a full blown brawl by Game Five but it's not happening.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    What i am afraid of (well, disappointed could be the better term) is that Cone won't retaliate. He's too classy for that.

    (As you see i want to see a full blown brawl by Game Five but it's not happening.)
    Nah, I think Cone will retaliate at any given point from here. Cone chooses his battles well, and is capable of tit-for-tat reaction. He will never retaliate against a Robert Jaworski, Sr. or any Ginebra team - there's absolutely no way he can get out of the smoke as a winner against them. Fans will simply crucify Cone if he ever messes up against any Ginebra team, past or present.

    But since B-Meg is on the winning end of the popularity game, expect Cone to turn the tables on TnT. Fans will simply lap it up, and justify every single action that B-Meg does, not unlike what BGK fans do for their idols. That's just how it is, and Cone knows this very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatweirdguy View Post
    LOL at Pamboy Palaboy. At least he didn't fractured anyone's orbital bone this time
    who's orbital bone did pamboy broke? caguioa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    who's orbital bone did pamboy broke? caguioa?
    Hermida's. He was taken off the court immediately because they couldn't stop the bleeding. Funny thing is they were also up by 10+ points in the final minutes in the 4th quarter before Pamboy hit him in the eyes

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    Though i'm cheering for TnT, I'm not quite sure what's going on with Pamboy Raymundo when he sent a flying elbow to Urbiztondo's face? Whether it was intentional or not or reflex action me thinks Pamboy should have tone down his intensity since the game was already decided after he came in. I can also put a blame on Urbiztondo he shouldn't have reacted that way, he should have called the referees attention or something that won't escalate the tension. No question, Urbiztondo is a way much better player than Pamboy but in that incident that wasn't the case. JDV reacted out of frustration at makaganti lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Bones View Post
    Though i'm cheering for TnT, I'm not quite sure what's going on with Pamboy Raymundo when he sent a flying elbow to Urbiztondo's face? Whether it was intentional or not or reflex action me thinks Pamboy should have tone down his intensity since the game was already decided after he came in. I can also put a blame on Urbiztondo he shouldn't have reacted that way, he should have called the referees attention or something that won't escalate the tension. No question, Urbiztondo is a way much better player than Pamboy but in that incident that wasn't the case. JDV reacted out of frustration at makaganti lang.
    urbiztondo for me did a little drama.they were loosing. he wanted more insult to injury to gain more fans so-to-speak. i hope bmeg doesn't become primmadona's.
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    1. I feel Pamboy Raymundo needs to be suspended by at least one game for instigating a melee at a time when everything was over but the final score. He should have been given a FF1 or a technical foul (for the Urbiztondo incident) and a FF2 for the Devance hit on the nape.

    2. Joe Devance's flipping the ball towards Raymundo's face was equally uncalled for and rightfully deserved a FF2. He should get suspended also for one game but since Commissioner Chito Salud has already made a precedent on this, Devance would probably be playing on Game 5, wrongfully that is.

    3. Josh Urbiztondo deserved a technical foul for second motion against Raymundo. He shouldn't be suspended on Game 5.

    Let's see how the Commissioner decides on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    1. I feel Pamboy Raymundo needs to be suspended by at least one game for instigating a melee at a time when everything was over but the final score. He should have been given a FF1 or a technical foul (for the Urbiztondo incident) and a FF2 for the Devance hit on the nape.

    2. Joe Devance's flipping the ball towards Raymundo's face was equally uncalled for and rightfully deserved a FF2. He should get suspended also for one game but since Commissioner Chito Salud has already made a precedent on this, Devance would probably be playing on Game 5, wrongfully that is.

    3. Josh Urbiztondo deserved a technical foul for second motion against Raymundo. He shouldn't be suspended on Game 5.

    Let's see how the Commissioner decides on this.
    even if raymundo is suspended for the entire season, TNT won't feel it....but having devance or urbiztondo suspended even for one game, bmeg will surely feel it...
    that's how brilliant chot reyes' strategy is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ticket View Post
    even if raymundo is suspended for the entire season, TNT won't feel it....but having devance or urbiztondo suspended even for one game, bmeg will surely feel it...
    that's how brilliant chot reyes' strategy is...
    BT,

    Being a follower of the PBA for several years already, we both know this isn't actually an earth-shaking, innovative and original move on Chot Reyes' part. It appears brilliant because somehow, it appeared to have worked. But this will only work if Devance gets suspended on Game 5. Such is not coming though.

    This is an all familiar move on the part of PBA coaches. Baby Dalupan used to do this - fielding players like Bong Dela Cruz, Joy Dionisio and other enforcers to get into the heads of the opposing teams' top players. Jimmy Mariano also used to do this, ditto with Ely Capacio of Tanduay, Yeng Guiao of Red Bull / Rain or Shine, among many others.

    But everything rests on Salud's decision here. I won't make any opinion yet on this matter though as we still have to wait for his final decision on this. But my best guess is that Raymundo would be sanctioned with a suspension while Devance and Urbiztondo will be spared.

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