All things NASA, ESA, universe and alien life

[areanL]

Well. if there is really life outside the earth, I think that would be wonderful. I'm looking forward to meet them soon.

[Levenspiel]

I think we are on the same page with Adon here, at all points. The life's emergence, whether it was on earth or somewhere else is already amazing, and panspermia theory still has to explain how the life started in space.

please correct me if I'm wrong but one immensely interesting fact about earth life is that, from the one-cell microorganisms to dinosaurs, from deep-sea dwelling sulfur-metabolizing creatures to fungi, all life forms have the same carbon-based structures (proteins, nucleotides, etc), moderately differentiating in arrangement. This is a very strong proof as to its singular origins.

If we are thinking of a life form, totally independent from earth, an alternative could be silicone-based (just one-row below carbon in the periodic table, with similar properties), but polysilicon structures are said to be less flexible and variable wrt to carbon ones, greatly limiting its chances for a life-base.

Other non-biological life forms might be present, but it's up to everybody's imagination until any proof is provided.

[rikhardur]

Let's also not forget that humans (intelligent life) only had the chance to appear because some asteroid killed the dinosaurs and the result was a mass extinction... It is sort of by chance that we exist.

[Robimkd]

Watch 6min and 39sec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcBV-cXVWFw

Most importent picture even taken by humanity.

Our sun is jus of bilion and bilions stars in our galaxy, and in univers exist bilion and bilion of galaxys with bilion and bilion of stars.

Just in our galaxy chances are 100% that we have life on other planets, I'm not talking about intelligent life but about some sort of organism.

90% chances that intelligent life exist in our galaxy.

Our galaxu is just one of bilion and bilion and bilion galaxys so intelligent life exist with out a doubt.

I have to make religious people disappointed, but no, god didint create univers. Univers did create us.

[Adon]

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If we are thinking of a life form, totally independent from earth, an alternative could be silicone-based (just one-row below carbon in the periodic table, with similar properties), but polysilicon structures are said to be less flexible and variable wrt to carbon ones, greatly limiting its chances for a life-base.

Other non-biological life forms might be present, but it's up to everybody's imagination until any proof is provided.

When (if) the human race starts the exploration of other planets I'm sure that we will meet entities at the borderline of our current definition of life.
For example the silicon-based life you've mentioned, probably it would be a mineral-like creature (its respiration would produce glass) and its metabolism would be very slow (considering that Si is less chemically active than C). Its life-cycle could last for millennia or even more.

An astronaut on Mars pass by a (seemingly) rock formation which is in fact thousands of generations of this silicon based creature (3 bilion years ago, there was only a small pebble in this location). The creature(s?) doesn't feel the human presence, because carbon-based life is very fast for it. The creature doesn't have any need for fast reactions. It will react only to extreme climatological or geological changes and the adjustments it would make, could take centuries to be completed.

The astronaut decides to take some samples for this rock- and it hurts deadly the sole colony of this species on Mars . The lab examines the samples and there is an obvious complexity in this "rock". In addition, the crystal structure of this entity can absorb external energy (minimizing its entropy) and perhaps the scientists can even observe the (very slow) process of structural reproduction- if the creature is still functioning after the sampling.

It's very possible that it would be considered to be a strange mineral rather than a living creature. The creature is kept as an exhibit on a self in Smithsonian. It realizes -after a decade- that something goes wrong.

(epilogue)
The scientists-accidentally- keep the sample in optimal conditions. The creature survives. After 500 years the creature has moved 15cm, it's touching the glass of the shelf and it has started to absorb it. Just because of the observation skills and the curiosity of a young scientist who works in the Smithsonian, the scientists understand their mistake. The rock is the first alien.
UN grands an asteroid to the creature (as a compensation) to live happily ever after and the species survives. Alas, Mars has been colonized by then and there is no place for the creature on its planet of origin.

[Sitting Bull]

Been listening quite a bit to Jedi mind tricks lately. A lot of focus on the unknown, omitted and pseudoscience. Lot of alien references.

One excerpt from a relatively popular song of theirs that fits the thread bill, just for the mental acrobatics. Take a look/scim it.

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Books of Blood: The Coming of Tan Feat. El
------Jedi Mind Tricks

(Riley Martin, author of 'The Coming of Tan', speech sample)
"Perhaps you will believe the million feet of film that's been taken above...
uh... Mexico City, and various other places
If you think that you are alone in this universe
or that you are the guardians of this universe, then you are rudely mistaken"

[El Eloh from Lost Children of Babylon]
Took a physical odyssey
To the fathers of Shabazz
With the shamans of the Cherokees
Arrived in Nevada, 10 miles away from NASA
Met the farmer, in which he revealed to me the
Ohioan crop circles that linked all the star constellations
To 19th galaxy... The metaphysists
That quote the Roswell
New Mexican deserts of death valley
Will he be, extraterrestrial biological entity
discovering extraordinary memories
Glided across Glassland
Suddenly seeing illuminations from the seven heavens circle of sand
Of Area 51 and 57, separate the schoolkid and reveal the reptilian
I seen the CIA transform into the species of Greys
The Sabbath seven adding up to seven levels of the Majestic 12
Neoclassic traveller
I Travel the Twilight Zone with Einstein and Nikola Tesla
Walk through the wilderness of Ibilis
as the flying disc, of Ezekiel
the pope stands upon the podium
Becomes a Zeta Reticulian
behold the arrival of the Elohim ..."

[IKon the Verbal Hologram]
...Beware the prophecies of the Tarots!
Alien Spacecraft flying away like Sparrows!
Study the lost prophetic books of the bible
That recites Fallen body energies: spiritual survival
Flying discs seen in Ezekiel 1:3
Granted Kingu a tablet of destinies
Seviates spoke the word of the Bavarian illuminati
I bring forth harmonics of Hiroshima and Nagasaki!
Annunaki planted the seed where I dwell
either vortex turbines pulling me to hell
awareness upon my savannah as omni dimensional
great species has a common memory complex of the social
liquid crystal colloidal membranes responding
to the spectrum of the universal intelligence matrix...
the basis is that extraterrestrials created Christ
and have a device
that recorded all of Earth's history
and can display it in the form of a hologram precise;
Construction of synthetic humanoids is among us
You have entered the Land Of Nod now, face the deafening thunders
And the spiritual wonders
because the harvest now is coming
Beware the world-wide ancient tunnel system
the government is running
Hectic! Verbal slaughter of the Judeo-Christian Ethic!

[El Eloh]
The world has turned on its last spin
The coming of Tan- to this wicked land! (x2)


[El Eloh]
Fled with the 5, led through a European wooded ravine
And seen Stone henge connect and bring upon the Annunaki
The Highest kabbalah mystic chants B`nai Elohim
And looks to the sky for prophecy
Was abducted in Nebraska
Then taken back to the laboratory, experiment performed before me
Non earthly alien autopsy!
Psycho social biological and electro-
-Magnetic manipulation of human consciousness
The Vulcan walks about the abyss!

[IKon the Verbal Hologram]
The Verbal Hologram: Wordal killer like Shark eyes
Speak Babylonian and Hebrew genesis like the Star Gods
Blessed by Biaviians like the French theologians
Anti-Christ is coming in the form of a powerful Roman!
Development of Aid’s was funded in 1969
For the seven (G-7)
and injected into 100 million Africans in ‘77
Cuneiform inscriptions in Western Asia of the Nabu
Dwell in hell, celestial bodies : twelve like Kathabu
But I can rob you of your spirit soul like Xenu
Elders imprisoned, negative Para-physical beings we knew
Function outside the time-track like Ississani
I chose to be enclosed and I fold too, like Origami
Comprehend the theory of reflection like Paromatma
In the epic Sanskrit history of the world like Mahabharata
Praise to His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

[Chorus]

[Riley Martin]
"If you stood above the stratosphere and downloaded 7 gigawatts of negative ions
into the turbines would this not disrupt the..electromagnetic flow?"

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FWIW.
A far too deeply rooted ontological analysis, wordplay if you will, to attempt decoding. Again, a central theme in the lyrical contents of the group concerns associated matters.
The expedite verbal exhibit of these advanced lyrics is a philosophy itself.

[Sitting Bull]

And yet this is only a small, tiny fraction of the universe known to mankind. Truly astonishing

[CKR13]

Neil Armstrong passes away at aged 82.