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    Default Why aren't there new missions to Moon?

    Leaving aside the moonlanding hoax theories, if Apollo 11 indeed landed - why haven't there been additional landings? Why didn't Soviet spacecraft ever land?

    There are no publicly known information on new planned missions to the Moon, and Apollo 11's mission was cut short. I find this a very intricate puzzle. A prevailing norm among ufo theorists is that there may very well be alien moon bases on the dark side of the moon, invisible to the public, and that NASA has airbrushed segments of moon photos (in some instances it appears fairly possible judging by landscape maps and contours)


    Some interesting info:
    According to Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon, two massive alien spacecraft were waiting there to greet him as he and the Apollo 11 Lunar Module touched down on the moon’s surface in July 1969.

    Alleged conversations between Armstrong, Mission Control and an unnamed professor also disclose the reasons behind the US government’s shock decision to cancel the Apollo Moon Landing program in 1973.

    It was in response to an alien warning.
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    For the past 40 years the rumour mill has spun itself out of orbit with claims about what Armstrong actually said following his historic moonwalk.

    Though the images were grainy, and the quality of the transmission poor, millions of Americans none the less heard Armstrong’s now-immortal “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind” speech.

    But it is what he is alleged to have said next that has caused such fierce debate – and no small controversy – across the intervening decades.

    Through the crackle and pop of what many believe was a deliberately contrived poor-quality broadcast, Armstrong was heard to say he could see a “light” on the rim of a nearby crater. Mission Control responded with a request for more information, following which the transmission went dead.

    For a full two minutes nothing was heard…
    http://www.consciousape.com/news/moo...s-on-the-moon/

    Theres also a cryptic Neil Armstrong message on YT on this subject.

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    Em, cause there are no more Soviets to beat by getting there first?
    NASA's space program was slowed down due to casualties, loss of public interest which meant reduced funding and finally the shift in focus, from conquering space to using it in favor of the enterprising terrestrials.
    There is no need to revisit the moon until we have the Technology to build a McDonald's up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janos View Post
    Em, cause there are no more Soviets to beat by getting there first?
    NASA's space program was slowed down due to casualties, loss of public interest which meant reduced funding and finally the shift in focus, from conquering space to using it in favor of the enterprising terrestrials.
    There is no need to revisit the moon until we have the Technology to build a McDonald's up there.
    This, the moon landing was fantastic PR, and an amazing scientific achievement but after you've been a couple times the United States began to realize there wasn't a whole lot to do there. Especially considering the costs and risks.
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    They just discovered it was a big rock. And that there was no military advantage to take, nor any way you could live there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damelo View Post
    They just discovered it was a big rock. And that there was no military advantage to take, nor any way you could live there.
    That's basically it.
    There's nothing more to be discovered on the Moon and it'd be a waste of money and resources to come back there just to bring some more "rocks" that were already brought in the past.
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    By far the easiest reaction is understandably to neglect all claims that interfer with in line thinking and general knowledge. The challenge is to try to attempt at reasoning and research that might illustrate new dimensions of deduction analysis.

    Human landing just once is a bit too uncanny. There has been no other landings after the apollo program. Normally you send at least a second explorer mission after years of intervall. And no Soviet landings occuring at all from publicly accesible information. Why wouldnt the Soviets aspire to raise their flag on the Moon, if any landings were made by US.
    I discovered google moon tool whilst researching this.

    On the other hand, i also read the other day that private space flights will be launched and permormed consistently. Pehaps to the moon.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceport_America
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    Soviets were competing eith their own rocket, but it failed after multiple tests. Instead of it being built like Apollo (4 main engines), the Soviets thought that more engines would create more thrust and more speed. Called the N1, it had 30 (yes 30) main engines. Basic rocketry here: the more engines you have, the higher chances for failure. To get all 30 working perfectly at the same time is a task. Soviets never got it far off the ground. Also had complex plumbing and everything...too much. There was another competitor in the USSR to this, but officials sided with Korolev (creator of the N1).

    So why not go to the moon now? Well if you didn't know, the US space shuttle program is official terminated. Last mission wasa couple of months ago. No public interest, no funding, not much scientific value anymore, no motivation. We went up first to beat the Soviets, so we were much more motivated and an inspired gerneation led the way. We can better spend that money to explore places like Pluto, Titan, the Kuiper Built, the heliosphere and all those places. More scientific value with less risk.
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    the answer to that question is fairly simple, the answer to that question is also a simple question : "What for?"

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    US is trillions in debt...we need to use the money to better the country and the planet before we spend a lot of money on a moon mission.
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    why are there plans to go to moon in 10-15 years both for Russia and US, and even China, something not working here, u can say theres no need to go to Moon because we were there, but again why we need 60 years to go again, when technology improved so much from that period.

    Im neutral on landing, im not really into it or something just not convinced.


    For example, NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter in 2009 has taken this pics of Apollo Landing Sites to show that it was not hoax, and im still not convinced, i mean is this joke.


    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LR...ollosites.html

    Cant believe that 40 years after all that missions that landed there we still dont have some hard evidence and pictures of that sites? All that pics of astronauts could have been easily faked and many pointed to lots of "errors" in these pictures, and live broadcast from moon was horrible.

    theres many black spots without answers or bad answers.

    why dont they send robotic spacecraft to take pics from land of this spots and artificial objects that were left there, and end all discussions?

    its not just about money, because money is already there, its not at same level as from that cold war era but still big money is going to NASA.

    again 90% are that it was successful, but something strange happened there and because of that they are hiding many informations and also NASA bad response to all this hoax claims was bad. alien scenario is also possible, we can laugh on that, but theres lots of official pictures from both soviet/russian and us missions that had taken some strange photos of some objects on moon, many censored/blurred spots on pictures.

    read this, especially this at the end of page:
    http://www.thewhyfiles.net/moonfiles.htm
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    Decepticons?

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    There was this independent French or Russian journalist, he went to the Moon and found no traces of Americans. Just kidding, the Moon is a
    SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!
    The Moon Is A SCAM(http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm)!


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    I think that some people are taking those childish (entertaining though) movies too seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitting Bull View Post
    By far the easiest reaction is understandably to neglect all claims that interfer with in line thinking and general knowledge. The challenge is to try to attempt at reasoning and research that might illustrate new dimensions of deduction analysis. ...
    In general, understanding the depths of general knowledge is for most people a bigger challenge.

    In this particular case, understanding the physics of traveling to the Moon and back is a greater task than developing a conspiracy theory...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwijibo View Post
    I accept PAO is more succesful team that Barcelona

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    How can we go to the moon with 100 times less technology than we have in a normal mobile phone 2011.

    Just make no sense since we can not do it today.

    No one can go through the Van Allen radiation belt, today we have the technology but the problem is Van Allen radiation belt.

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    Could we send the Tea Party to the moon - and leave them there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robimkd View Post
    How can we go to the moon with 100 times less technology than we have in a normal mobile phone 2011.

    Just make no sense since we can not do it today.

    No one can go through the Van Allen radiation belt, today we have the technology but the problem is Van Allen radiation belt.
    Sorry dude but the monumental nonsense you have written should not be left unanswered.
    Robimkd's "facts":
    1.A mobile phone has 100 times more technology (e.g. rocket technology ) than Apollo 11.
    2.After "exact" calculations, he knows that in 1969 NASA had not enough "computational power" in order to achieve this task.
    (He probably doesn't understand that 3 secs of CGI special effects in the"Transformers" require incredibly more calculations than the whole 1st mission on the moon)
    3.Today, we cannot go to the moon That's a new.
    4.If today,with all these mobile phones, we cannot do it, then how did they achieve it in 1969 without even one (1) mobile phone? Obviously it's a scam.
    5.The VanAllen belt is impenetrable Another new.
    (Robimkd doesn't explain why. We can presume that he implies :
    a. Circuits would be destroyed by the radiation (satellites are another scam ) or/and
    b. Humans would be killed because of the radiation (Gagarin is a scam too.)

    Anyways,in Greece there is a saying "leme kai kammia malakia na perasei i ora" (trans. "sometimes we talk nonsense to help the time goes by"), but you (Robimkd) have made it a way of living.

    ps. for every "hobbyist". There is an interesting conspiracy theory about Gagarin's death. Food for "thought"
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    Less technology in an old rocket than in mobile 2011, yes.

    You need money the technology is very primitive even Hitler had it.

    Yes Apollo 11 cockpit hade less technology than a vacuum cleaner today.

    Yes this wos made up in USA to hide the Vitenam fiasko.

    Btw, no stars on the moon ? since when ?, earth should be 5 times the size of the moon not the same size as when you look at the moon from our planet.

    Since when did the moon have atmosphere, think about the moving flag.

    They made a lot of mistakes in hollywood, since we didint knew much about moon back then.

    Your one naive human that thinks everything that is told on the news is true. The truth is only what some people say it is pay money for it. This is a matrix we live in my son. The truth is what you read right that some poeple have payd money for. Winston Churchill told this btw.

    Have a nice evening
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robimkd View Post
    Less technology in an old rocket than in mobile 2011, yes.

    You need money the technology is very primitive even Hitler had it.

    Yes Apollo 11 cockpit hade less technology than a vacuum cleaner today.

    Yes this wos made up in USA to hide the Vitenam fiasko.

    Btw, no stars on the moon ? since when ?, earth should be 5 times the size of the moon not the same size as when you look at the moon from our planet.

    Since when did the moon have atmosphere, think about the moving flag.

    They made a lot of mistakes in hollywood, since we didint knew much about moon back then.

    Your one naive human that thinks everything that is told on the news is true. The truth is only what some people say it is pay money for it. This is a matrix we live in my son. The truth is what you read right that some poeple have payd money for. Winston Churchill told this btw.

    Have a nice evening
    Someone is definitely a "naive human that thinks everything that is told". Have you "invented" this nonsense conspiracy theory by your own?
    I don't think so.

    You are just repeating the same s..t you've read (actually I don't believe that you can think even for one 1 original argument on the subject, not even an idiotic one) and you didn't care to read the answers which are given to those "arguments" by the scientific community.
    Good tactic. All scientists and every university are parts of this conspiracy.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_la...iracy_theories
    Last edited by Adon; 10-05-2011 at 04:31 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kwijibo View Post
    I accept PAO is more succesful team that Barcelona

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