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    Well, it was fun until it lasted!

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    One of these days, the number of Filipinos in the PBA who played in the US NCAA will surpass the number of those who played in NCAA (Philippines).

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    i hate to say this..
    but CHOT HAD BEEN WHISPERING MVPs EARs ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!

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    really can't expect them to play for gilas forever....time for the sinag players to get in to gilas...

    japhet will also go back to the PBA with TNT after wuhan...

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    the 26 year old limit is for those who have not played in the d-league...you can apply for the draft as early as 21 years old as long as you have the necessary college units...

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    The smart gilas program was really only going to serve us thru to the olympic qualifying stage and if lucky to the olympics...after that they are allowed to get themselves drafted in the pba. the salaries (or allowances) they receive now as part of gilas are in line with the rookie max pay of the pba.

    thing is smart gilas was formed in 2009...comprised of the best amateur players (sans paul lee) at that time. problem with this is that they planned it to be a 3 year program, ending in 2012...with lutz and lassiter applying for this coming draft, we have to speculate that the gilas program is coming to an end a year earlier.

    personally, the inclusion of pba players in the national team this late is an awful move..why not send an all-pro team instead? i would rather have this lineup for the national team: la tenorio, kelly williams, gabe norwood, japeth aguilar, marcus douthit, chris lutz, jimmy alapag, rabeh al-hussini, sonny thoss, jason castro, arwind santos, mick pennisi. the only advantage gilas has is their long time together...give those guys enough time to gel and they will surely compete against the best in asia. looking at the roster we have now for gilas, i'm not keeping my hopes up that we will qualify for the olympics nor the fiba worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killmebusy View Post
    The smart gilas program was really only going to serve us thru to the olympic qualifying stage and if lucky to the olympics...after that they are allowed to get themselves drafted in the pba. the salaries (or allowances) they receive now as part of gilas are in line with the rookie max pay of the pba.

    thing is smart gilas was formed in 2009...comprised of the best amateur players (sans paul lee) at that time. problem with this is that they planned it to be a 3 year program, ending in 2012...with lutz and lassiter applying for this coming draft, we have to speculate that the gilas program is coming to an end a year earlier.

    personally, the inclusion of pba players in the national team this late is an awful move..why not send an all-pro team instead? i would rather have this lineup for the national team: la tenorio, kelly williams, gabe norwood, japeth aguilar, marcus douthit, chris lutz, jimmy alapag, rabeh al-hussini, sonny thoss, jason castro, arwind santos, mick pennisi. the only advantage gilas has is their long time together...give those guys enough time to gel and they will surely compete against the best in asia. looking at the roster we have now for gilas, i'm not keeping my hopes up that we will qualify for the olympics nor the fiba worlds.
    hehe sorry bro, but i find this funny.
    Have you been following Gilas? Can you see the BIG difference?
    Have you seen how they play against other teams outside the Philippines?
    Have you seen how brilliant their tactics are? how smart and good smart gilas players are?
    Those pros are talented,yes,locally. But they really dont play good as a team even if we give them plenty of time to jell. They are not all born to fit an international type of game. And they have no good basketball IQ in terms of team play. They are just brilliant on 1-on-1 and against top Asian teams, they wont be that effective playing their game. Even Team USA cant gamble relying on their athleticism and strength.And not all American superstars fit in international type of game.

    It would be better if they continue the national team-negotiate now with the PBA and the schools. I mean continuity. Not getting a new and much much younger batch of players(even younger than Gilas players were when they started). It would be better if those youngsters would be insert into the POOL instead of starting again from scratch.
    The best way to fix the national team and competitiveness of Philippine basketball is by fixing the basketball calendar of our country.Its not in sync with the rest of the world.

    and Gilas started last quarter of 2008.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killmebusy View Post
    The smart gilas program was really only going to serve us thru to the olympic qualifying stage and if lucky to the olympics...after that they are allowed to get themselves drafted in the pba. the salaries (or allowances) they receive now as part of gilas are in line with the rookie max pay of the pba.

    thing is smart gilas was formed in 2009...comprised of the best amateur players (sans paul lee) at that time. problem with this is that they planned it to be a 3 year program, ending in 2012...with lutz and lassiter applying for this coming draft, we have to speculate that the gilas program is coming to an end a year earlier.

    personally, the inclusion of pba players in the national team this late is an awful move..why not send an all-pro team instead? i would rather have this lineup for the national team: la tenorio, kelly williams, gabe norwood, japeth aguilar, marcus douthit, chris lutz, jimmy alapag, rabeh al-hussini, sonny thoss, jason castro, arwind santos, mick pennisi. the only advantage gilas has is their long time together...give those guys enough time to gel and they will surely compete against the best in asia. looking at the roster we have now for gilas, i'm not keeping my hopes up that we will qualify for the olympics nor the fiba worlds.
    come on get real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killmebusy View Post
    The smart gilas program was really only going to serve us thru to the olympic qualifying stage and if lucky to the olympics...after that they are allowed to get themselves drafted in the pba. the salaries (or allowances) they receive now as part of gilas are in line with the rookie max pay of the pba.

    thing is smart gilas was formed in 2009...comprised of the best amateur players (sans paul lee) at that time. problem with this is that they planned it to be a 3 year program, ending in 2012...with lutz and lassiter applying for this coming draft, we have to speculate that the gilas program is coming to an end a year earlier.

    personally, the inclusion of pba players in the national team this late is an awful move..why not send an all-pro team instead? i would rather have this lineup for the national team: la tenorio, kelly williams, gabe norwood, japeth aguilar, marcus douthit, chris lutz, jimmy alapag, rabeh al-hussini, sonny thoss, jason castro, arwind santos, mick pennisi. the only advantage gilas has is their long time together...give those guys enough time to gel and they will surely compete against the best in asia. looking at the roster we have now for gilas, i'm not keeping my hopes up that we will qualify for the olympics nor the fiba worlds.
    im gonna troll you if you will continue to post like this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by killmebusy View Post
    The smart gilas program was really only going to serve us thru to the olympic qualifying stage and if lucky to the olympics...after that they are allowed to get themselves drafted in the pba. the salaries (or allowances) they receive now as part of gilas are in line with the rookie max pay of the pba.

    thing is smart gilas was formed in 2009...comprised of the best amateur players (sans paul lee) at that time. problem with this is that they planned it to be a 3 year program, ending in 2012...with lutz and lassiter applying for this coming draft, we have to speculate that the gilas program is coming to an end a year earlier.

    personally, the inclusion of pba players in the national team this late is an awful move..why not send an all-pro team instead? i would rather have this lineup for the national team: la tenorio, kelly williams, gabe norwood, japeth aguilar, marcus douthit, chris lutz, jimmy alapag, rabeh al-hussini, sonny thoss, jason castro, arwind santos, mick pennisi. the only advantage gilas has is their long time together...give those guys enough time to gel and they will surely compete against the best in asia. looking at the roster we have now for gilas, i'm not keeping my hopes up that we will qualify for the olympics nor the fiba worlds.
    Are you nuts?! Maybe you are following the cambodian national team

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    well, i may have been a bit pessimistic in my last post but i just said i'm not keeping my hopes up...i didn't say we won't. seriously, can we contened with china or lebanon or iran? mac baracael - a 6'4 guy at best plays reserve pf...with kelly coming into the mix a couple months before wuhan. yes i watched the fiba tournament that was held here, but first of we had home court advantage and second china, japan and korea weren't there. we even only managed to place 4th...to qualify for the olympics i think we need to at least make the finals of the fiba asia. again i'm not saying we won't..i still would like us to but i'm not extremely positive about it. sorry, my opinion may not please everyone but that is how i see it. i mean, come on..they couldn't even beat a small ginebra team...heck they couldn't find a way to stop 6'4 nate brumfield. jianlian and haddadi are just as strong and as physical...and they are 8 inches taller.

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    snowbadua snow badua
    PAUL LEE still studying options if he will apply for the PBA DRAFT. A lucrative offer to play for the PHILIPPINE PATRIOTS is also there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nardy View Post

    snowbadua snow badua
    PAUL LEE still studying options if he will apply for the PBA DRAFT. A lucrative offer to play for the PHILIPPINE PATRIOTS is also there.
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    lol what's with this feeling-kobe player? Masyadong businessman...
    Let him do what he wants, he'll not be a loss at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killmebusy View Post
    well, i may have been a bit pessimistic in my last post but i just said i'm not keeping my hopes up...i didn't say we won't. seriously, can we contened with china or lebanon or iran? mac baracael - a 6'4 guy at best plays reserve pf...with kelly coming into the mix a couple months before wuhan. yes i watched the fiba tournament that was held here, but first of we had home court advantage and second china, japan and korea weren't there. we even only managed to place 4th...to qualify for the olympics i think we need to at least make the finals of the fiba asia. again i'm not saying we won't..i still would like us to but i'm not extremely positive about it. sorry, my opinion may not please everyone but that is how i see it. i mean, come on..they couldn't even beat a small ginebra team...heck they couldn't find a way to stop 6'4 nate brumfield. jianlian and haddadi are just as strong and as physical...and they are 8 inches taller.
    dude, hehe you dont believe in Gilas' capability.
    Most of us here are realists,too. We were also viewing our shot at the Olympics as close to impossible,even branding the sbp program of mr eala as too ambitious. The more realistic and really long term goal is the FIBA World Championship, too bad they are planning to demolish the Gilas program.
    This is the best team we have and the best we can have at this moment.
    Dont look at the team composition we're going up against, we have very good team-playing players who understands the game very well.
    We have the PBA players to reinforce us on our weakness which is inside toughness.But too bad they're not really prioritizing our NT.
    And to remind you, the WORLD CHAMPIONHIP BOUND Jordan NT who placed third/4th in Asia cant even blast past against Ginebra bench with a s*cky import-i forgot his name he's from canada. That same Jordan NT went toe to toe against argentina almost able to score an upset. And just a 1 point loss against Australia, with Australia coming off a miracle run to win. Playing against international teams is very different from playing club teams from Philippines.

    Hope you dont lose faith in our team,and welcome to this forum.

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    Gilas Stalwarts lead PBA Draft


    Published : Friday, July 29, 2011 00:00 Article Views : 175 Written by : Zean Macamay


    CHRIS Lutz and Marcio Lassiter still have a big commitment left in their careers as national team members.

    But the two have already realized that it’s time to make the giant step.

    Lutz and Lassiter on Wednesday afternoon became the biggest names to apply this early for the PBA Draft next month, the league’s first huge event for the 2011-12 season that may yet be the richest pool in years.

    Eight other players have likewise submitted their intentions to move up into the big stage, namely: Alvin Cabonte (Letran), Mark Cagoco (JRU), Nino Labong, Christopher Pestanio, Raymond Montaniel, Christopher Concepcion and Filimon Fernandez.

    There’s no denying, however, that Lutz and Lassiter are bound to be first-round picks.

    Lutz and Lassiter will still be a part of the Smart-Gilas quintet when it competes in the Jones Cup next month in Taiwan and in the tough FIBA-Asia Championships in September in China, the qualifying tournament for the Olympic Games in London next year.

    The Draft is set on Aug. 28, with the Rookie Camp set on Aug. 23-26.

    Unlike other rookies, though, Lutz and Lassiter could obtain special concessions if the PBA Board approves of it.

    There are talks that Lutz and Lassiter will be demanding the same pay that they are reportedly getting at Smart-Gilas, which is at P250,000, during their first year in the PBA. The PBA, based on its rules, only gives rookies the maximum amount of P150,000 for the first year.


    The team with the No. 1 pick has yet to be decided through a lottery. There are two teams vying for that spot – Powerade, which has never made it to the playoffs this season, and Air21. The loser in the lottery automatically choses No. 2, with Meralco owning the No. 3 pick. The Nos. 4-10 picks will be decided after the semi-finals of the ongoing Governors’ Cup.


    Lutz, 22, played for Brewster Academy in the U.S. Lassiter, 20, studied at San Francisco City College.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ticket View Post
    the 26 year old limit is for those who have not played in the d-league...you can apply for the draft as early as 21 years old as long as you have the necessary college units...
    agree....

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    Now I think who has the more money, Is it mvp who is using his luxury tax exempting money or is it Azkals who is using FIFA luxury tax exempting money
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by weward View Post
    lol what's with this feeling-kobe player? Masyadong businessman...
    Let him do what he wants, he'll not be a loss at all.
    he's got all the time to study his options!

    well of course it would also depend on the advice of his long haired manager/promoter/financier/bff

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    paul lee's potential is ZERO
    hes already riped!and that sucks!
    junmar would be next!!!

    ide rather have parks or ravena
    develop their game internationally or in pba rather than being stock to college ball game..

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    Quote Originally Posted by acklium View Post
    paul lee's potential is ZERO
    hes already riped!and that sucks!
    junmar would be next!!!

    ide rather have parks or ravena
    develop their game internationally or in pba rather than being stock to college ball game..
    good thing about parks and ravena is that they have pretty good coaches training them in the collegiate ranks.

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