Protests in Arabic World

[BBallfanJ]

Mubarak has officially resigned as president of Egypt.

[Billy Bounce]

I don't believe in a sudden jump from (the current Egyptian) autocracy to a liberal democracy . Society has to make big changes to make it, so it usually take a few generations. Somebody has to tell Obama then Egypt isn't exactly Upper Manhattan.

With all my support for revolutionary twitting youngsters who probably only want better life from economic point of view, right now the current mess looks like Iran circa 1976.

Basically there is only 2 serious forces in Egypt : the army & Muslim Brotherhood. If the army takes a control I expect a few changes over Mubarak rule: some other dictator from top military will take his place.

In the case of Muslim Brotherhood prevails : they don't have the oil/money to build Iranian-style Islamic socialism , so the whole Egypt will probably turn into another Somali with warlords fighting each other for scarce resources left.

[ip84]

That is amazing is that people who consider themselves as intelligent able to listen to such broadcast and not wondering, I'm I missing something? Are there other points of views? Do they tell me all the truth?
Because when I see an "intellectual" discussion that two people invited to represents their views and they tell the same for me it is suspicious.

It supposed to be a dissociation about revolution in Egypt, and you can count how many times they mention Israel. It is obsession of hate, that's what it is, and this is supposed to be the most moderate TV channel they have in the Arab world, a one that is in English and turns also to the west.
(How less moderate TVs can look like you can see here : http://www.youtube.com/user/palwatch)
But OK, lets say they want to bring Israel into this dissociation, don't you have en expectation to bring also somebody who will defend Israeli against the stupid accusations? Or Jews don't have the right for that, because they are guilty by default?

I would be ashamed to put such video to state my point of view.

[ip84]

To the issue itself- this guy from Ljubljana says that there is something else other than dictator rule and western democracy. He didn't say what, or what he things is going to be at Egypt.

According to the Arab guy other guy there the only thing that kept Mubarak as a ruler was Israeli propaganda, while the truth is that Israel's government decision was to stay out of it because we can do only bad by involving and the goal is to assure that whoever will govern Egypt, the peace would be kept.
If there would be a peaceful democracy Israel would be the most happy about it.

Nobody even speak about the forces that exist inside Egypt, nobody analyze the political situation there, who might try to take control there. Just Israel vs the Egyptian people.

[Czarkazem13]

Why do we say "reformist movements" for similar kind of riot activities in Christian countries but just close it only with the word "riot" for Muslim countries?

I believe Christians "protest."

[Khalid80]

Ex-President Mubarak might be richer than Bill Gates

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/How-Hosni-Mubarak-Got-Filthy-usnews-3723955512.html?x=0

[Alyosha12]

To the issue itself- this guy from Ljubljana says that there is something else other than dictator rule and western democracy. He didn't say what, or what he things is going to be at Egypt.

According to the Arab guy other guy there the only thing that kept Mubarak as a ruler was Israeli propaganda, while the truth is that Israel's government decision was to stay out of it because we can do only bad by involving and the goal is to assure that whoever will govern Egypt, the peace would be kept.
If there would be a peaceful democracy Israel would be the most happy about it.

Nobody even speak about the forces that exist inside Egypt, nobody analyze the political situation there, who might try to take control there. Just Israel vs the Egyptian people.

LOL at calling Slavoj Zizek "the guy from Ljubljana"... Of course he is only next to Chomsky one of the greatest thinkers of our time, but hey he is just the guy from Ljubljana. Just like Sigmund Freud was just the guy from Vienna, Immanuel Kant was just the guy from Germany and Lacan was just the guy from France etc...

[ip84]

LOL at calling Slavoj Zizek "the guy from Ljubljana"... Of course he is only next to Chomsky one of the greatest thinkers of our time, but hey he is just the guy from Ljubljana. Just like Sigmund Freud was just the guy from Vienna, Immanuel Kant was just the guy from Germany and Lacan was just the guy from France etc...

That just proves that today in order to be advanced, to get the name and to be heard you don't have to be smart or follow the facts but to have the "right views"

[Alyosha12]

That just proves that today in order to be advanced, to get the name and to be heard you don't have to be smart or follow the facts but to have the "right views"

Yeah sure... It wouldn't hurt you to study his views a bit before you judge them...

[ip84]

Yeah sure... It wouldn't hurt you to study his views a bit before you judge them...

I had enough hearing his of-topic crap in this one and reffed to them only... not speaking about that bringing Israel into this was of-the-original-topic from the first place.
He was disgusting, spoke with hate and he told nothing with intellectual value (as I explained in my first post about this video).

If you want to have an opinion about a complex topic I would suggest you to study the topic instead of basing it on so-called intellectual all-know gods.

[elaj]

ip84, you are the only one talking here with hate. Rest don't have the right to have their own opinions about the situation? The only right opinion is the one given by you?

Reading the comments below the video - people aren't so onedimensional and stupid as the world seems. Some also use the brains. Makes me happy for a while.

[ip84]

ip84, you are the only one talking here with hate. Rest don't have the right to have their own opinions about the situation? The only opinion right is the one given by you and rest of propaganda monkeys?

Reading the comments below the video - people aren't so onedimensional as the world seems. Some also use the brains. Makes me happy for a while.

Sorry for not liking somebody who lie about me and about what I think...

As I tried to said before, listening to people that you think that they use a brain should not dismiss a person to use his own brain.

[elaj]

Sorry for not liking somebody who lie about me and about what I think...

As I tried to said before, listening to people that you think that they use a brain should not dismiss a person to use his own brain.

So, it means if I listen to the world renowned philosopher I agree with him on all he says?

Come on. I even don't like the guy.

I have to say I agree with him about what the told on that video, but believe me I don't like a lot of what he preaches...

[Alyosha12]

I had enough hearing his of-topic crap in this one and reffed to them only... not speaking about that bringing Israel into this was of-the-original-topic from the first place.
He was disgusting, spoke with hate and he told nothing with intellectual value (as I explained in my first post about this video).

If you want to have an opinion about a complex topic I would suggest you to study the topic instead of basing it on so-called intellectual all-know gods.

Yeah the same who is not with me is against me bullcrap. If you would only take a minute of your day and stop bashing someone who doesn't agree with you 100% you would find out he agrees with you 60% but what ever... It is easer to just attack right...

[elaj]

Yeah the same who is not with me is against me bullcrap. If you would only take a minute of your day and stop bashing someone who doesn't agree with you 100% you would find out he agrees with you 60% but what ever... It is easer to just attack right...

Hey, years and years of listening to propaganda does that to you... it's not her fault.