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Lebron23
10-08-2008, 03:15 AM
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REIGNING CHAMPS REALTORS & KINGS COLLIDE

Purefoods takes on unpredictable Red Bull

Wednesday, 08 October 2008

Sta. Lucia Realty and Barangay Ginebra will be put to test early as the two teams that became the toast of the PBA last season make their debut in the 2008-09 KFC PBA Philippine Cup against each other Wednesday.

Pitting the two champions of last season apparently excites Sta. Lucia coach Boyet Fernandez, who views it as a perfect avenue to determine their readiness to compete and defend the title.

"This is a good test for us to know if our (little) adjustments and system is good and will be productive," said Fernandez, voted Coach of the Year by the PBA Press Corps for masterfully steering the Realtors to a 4-3 victory over the Purefoods TJ Giants in the Finals of this tournament last season.

With their success last season, both clubs opted not to alter their rosters. Rookie Kelvin Gregorio is the only new face in the Sta. Lucia lineup while free agent Jun-jun Cabatu was signed by the Kings, reigning Fiesta Conference champions, to augment their depleted unit.

An assortment of injuries to star guard Mark Caguioa (still in the US for rehab), Junthy Valenzuela, and Rafi Reavis worry Ginebra coach Jong Uichico, who can only hope that whatever is left of his bench will be able to rise to the challenge.

"We need a better start this conference than we did last season. That's our short- term goal," offered Uichico.

Ginebra's reported state of health didn't help to calm Fernandez, who dismissed suggestions that their 7:30 p.m. date with the Kings at the Araneta Coliseum would be a walk in the park.

"I'm excited to play Ginebra in our debut. This will be an interesting match-up between two champion teams. You don't let your guard down just because they tell you Ginebra has lots of injured players. That team has got a lot of talent, well coached and they enjoy tremendous crowd support. So we'll see what happens,” Fernandez said.

Purefoods and Red Bull also begin their campaign in the league's 34th season with Giants coach Ryan Gregorio having mixed emotions about playing the Barakos.

Except for Cyrus Baguio, Red Bull has been practically reduced to a team of role players after management decided to part ways with Mick Pennisi (the only remaining original member of the team that joined the league in 2000) who was traded to San Miguel. Also gone are back-up center Paolo Bugia and guards Topex Robinson and Kiko Adriano.

"We are practically starting over again. But what I've seen in practice and the pre-season games are encouraging. I think we can spring some surprises," said Red Bull coach Yeng Guiao.

But coming into their 5 p.m. encounter with the Giants, what Guiao will have in his disposal is a small team with 6-6 Carlo Sharma serving his one-game suspension in connection with his flagrant foul 2 that was committed during their battle for third place against San Miguel in last season's Fiesta Conference.

But even against a team that would not attract a second look, Gregorio wants his troops to give their best shot.

"The problem with Red Bull is that they are always unpredictable. We acknowledge that fact that we cannot take them lightly, even with the absence of big name players," Gregorio confessed.

The Purefoods coach said whichever side manages to control the tempo will have the edge.

"Allowing them (Barakos) to run and score on fastbreaks would be disastrous for u


Barangay Ginebra Kings Roster ( Thanks for the update Ankle Breaker)


Billy Mamaril 6'6" C 220 lbs Bakersfield
Rafi Reavis 6'8" C 210 lbs Coppin State
Macky Escalona 5'11" G 180 lbs AdMU
Ronald Tubid 6'1" G 175 lbs UE
Paul Artadi 5'9" G 150 lbs UE
Junthy Valenzuela 6'2" G 185 lbs SIT
Junjun Cabatu 6'3" F 215 lbs DLSU
Jayjay Helterbrand 5'11" G 170 lbs Kentucky State University
Chris Pacana 6'1" G 200 lbs St. Francis of Asisi College
Eric Menk 6'6" C 220 lbs Lake Superior State University
Alex Crisano 6'7" C 240 lbs Brooklyn
Mike Holper 6'7" C 210 lbs San Diego State
Mark Caguioa 6'1" G 185 lbs Glendale Community College
Sunday Salvacion 6'3" G 190 lbs CSB

super_defender
10-08-2008, 04:54 AM
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Billy Mamaril 6'6" C 220 lbs Bakersfield
Rafi Reavis 6'8" C 210 lbs Coppin State
Macky Escalona 5'11" G 180 lbs AdMU
Ronald Tubid 6'1" G 175 lbs UE
Paul Artadi 5'9" G 150 lbs UE
Junthy Valenzuela 6'2" G 185 lbs SIT
Junjun Cabatu 6'3" F 215 lbs DLSU
Jayjay Helterbrand 5'11" G 170 lbs Kentucky State University
Chris Pacana 6'1" G 200 lbs St. Francis of Asisi College
Eric Menk 6'6" C 220 lbs Lake Superior State University
Alex Crisano 6'7" C 240 lbs Brooklyn
Mike Holper 6'7" C 210 lbs San Diego State
Mark Caguioa 6'1" G 185 lbs Glendale Community College
Sunday Salvacion 6'3" G 190 lbs CSB

SIT???

taninf
10-08-2008, 05:35 AM
SIT???

Salazar Institute of Technology? near Cebu Institute of technology? im not so sure...

joesmoove059
10-08-2008, 08:16 AM
the gin kings will start the season without MC Menk and Mamaril. anyway I go for the Realtors! haha go SLR!!:D

its_eman8211
10-08-2008, 09:23 AM
the gin kings will start the season without MC Menk and Mamaril. anyway I go for the Realtors! haha go SLR!!:D

it's not new anymore for BGK team, they always start the season with their key players injured.

ankle breaker
10-08-2008, 03:02 PM
SIT???
yes bro, it's SIT. Salazar Institute of Technology. same school where jimwel torion played college hoops in cebu. they are team mates though. SIT is now known as SC-SIT. it's near CIT or Cebu Institute of Technology. they are separated by an unfinished building what was supposed to be a mall.

amamangloy
10-08-2008, 03:40 PM
Ginebra won (come-from-behind win) without Caguioa, Mamaril, Reavis and Valenzuela... Paul Artadi had a sensational game with 18 points.

Lebron23
10-08-2008, 10:53 PM
Kings hold off Realtors; Giants score

By Musong R. Castillo

MANILA, Philippines—Winning the season opener over the tournament’s defending champion meant little more than a morale booster for Barangay Ginebra.

“We’re not looking ,” Ginebra coach Jong Uichico said Wednesday night, moments after the decimated Gin Kings completed a come-from-behind 89-86 victory over defending KFC Philippine Cup champion Sta. Lucia Realty at the Araneta Coliseum in Quezon City.

“It’s important to win the first game because it gives your confidence and morale a boost,” added the multi-titled mentor, whose team won the Fiesta Cup at the expense of Air21 two months ago.

Jay-Jay Helterbrand knocked in 21 of his 26 markers in the final two quarters, and Paul Artadi was adjudged the Player of the Game after scattering a career-high 18 points to go with three assists and two steals as both guards led the Kings, who were without a lot of key players.

Ginebra played without big men Rafi Reavis and Billy Mamaril and top-tier guards Junthy Valenzuela and Mark Caguioa, who are all out because of various injuries.

The Realtors opened up with a 10-0 lead but couldn’t keep up with the Kings in the stretch.

Ryan Reyes had 17 points and Kelly Williams highlighted a 16-point night with four electrifying dunks for the Realtors.

In the first game, with James Yap hobbled by an old injury, Purefoods turned to Kerby Raymundo in the fourth quarter last night to scuttle a stubborn Red Bull crew, 77-73.

“The only thing predictable about Red Bull is its unpredictability; Red Bull is always tough to beat,” said Purefoods coach Ryan Gregorio. “They may have lost a lot of players, but as long as (Red Bull) coach Yeng (Guiao) is there, Red Bull will always contend.”

The Tender Juicy Giants trailed by as many as 15 points in the first half then played brilliantly when it mattered most as Raymundo outscored the entire Barako squad in the payoff frame.

“I think we also took it easy in the first half and almost paid the price for it,” said Gregorio. “The positive (thing) about this win is that James (Yap) had an off-night and we still found a way to win.”

The 6-foot-6 Raymundo scored 11 of his game-high 23 points in the fourth period to make up for the inability of the Giants’ other go-to-guy, Yap, to deliver at the crunch.

Raymundo also finished with 15 rebounds and three blocks to lead the Giants, who also got 18 points from Peter June Simon off the bench. Simon also helped rally Purefoods by shooting 13 in the third.

Bothered by a recurring right ankle sprain, Yap finished with just eight points on 2-of-17 shooting from the field. He missed all his seven attempts from the three-point area as the Giants trailed most of the way and looked ready to fall.

Red Bull, with national coach Yeng Guiao calling the shots, led 43-28 at the break, and was ahead 67-60 with 9:35 left in the fourth quarter before two long scoreless spells doomed the unpredictable Barako.

Purefoods first blanked Red Bull for nearly four minutes to creep within 64-67, before holding the Barako hitless again in a five-minute span for a 75-69 lead heading into the final 1:34.

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The scores:


First Game

PUREFOODS 77—Raymundo 23, Simon 18, Villanueva 15, Yap R. 9, Yap J. 8, Bugia 2, Robinson 2, Belga 0, Alonzo 0, Lanete 0, Aban 0, Salvador 0.

RED BULL 73—Espinas 18, Baguio 10, Duncil 9, Najorda 9, Cruz 7, Rodriguez 6, Chan 5, Hubalde 5, Alvarez 4, Ybañez 0, Hrabak 0.

Quarters: 18-28, 28-43, 58-63, 77-73

Second Game

BARANGAY GINEBRA 89—Helterbrand 26, Artadi 18, Salvacion 14, Cabatu 8, Pacana 6, Holper 6, Menk 4, Tubid 3, Wilson 2, Crisano 2, Aquino 0, Escalona 0.

STA. LUCIA 86—Reyes 17, Williams 16, Espino 16, Omolon 8, Coronel 6, Gonzales 6, Mendoza 5, Miranda 4, Yeo 3, Aquino 3, Daa 2, Gregorio 0.

Quarters: 21-25, 35-45, 65-66, 89-86


http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20081009-165411/Kings-hold-off-Realtors-Giants-score

Lebron23
10-09-2008, 04:48 AM
Ginebra won (come-from-behind win) without Caguioa, Mamaril, Reavis and Valenzuela... Paul Artadi had a sensational game with 18 points.


And don't forget the best PG in the PBA Jayjay Helterbrand scoring a game high 26 points, and dishing out 3 assists as Ginebra defeated the defending All Filipino Cup Champion Sta. Lucia Realtors.

Mr. Fast really need to step up because Mark Caguioa is still in the USA recovering from his minor injury.

Lebron23
10-12-2008, 12:52 PM
Ginebra defeated the Air 21 Express, 101-92. Excellent outside shooting from the Gin Kings.

Best Player of the Game

Junjun Cabatu, 23 points, 4/7 FG's, 6 rebounds, 5 assists.

its_eman8211
10-12-2008, 01:28 PM
Ginebra defeated the Air 21 Express, 101-92. Excellent outside shooting from the Gin Kings.

Best Player of the Game

Junjun Cabatu, 23 points, 4/7 FG's.

This guy almost start the season with no team want to sign him.
Good thing that BGK sign this sweet shooting bigman.

Lebron23
10-13-2008, 02:59 AM
INJURY-PLAGUED GINEBRA WINS AGAIN

Cabatu sparkles in a career game as Kings join early leaders

Monday, 13 October 2008

Junjun Cabatu came out of his shell and made his dad Sonny proud.

The young Cabatu dished out his best game as a pro Sunday night, and Barangay Ginebra continued to buck absence of key players, repulsing Air21, 101-92, in the KFC PBA Philippine Cup at the Araneta Coliseum.

Beating title holder Sta. Lucia Wednesday, Ginebra is now on an improbable run playing minus injury-stricken stalwarts Mark Caguioa, Billy Mamaril, Rafi Reavis and Eric Menk.


As if injuries to the four players were not enough, Alex Crisano was hit by a strained calf muscle early in the second half.

Cabatu, however, came to the Kings' rescue, putting in a career-high 23 points -- the bulk of which fueling a mighty charge carrying Ginebra to the win that tied them with Rain or Shine and Alaska Milk atop the field with identical 2-0 win-loss slates.

The Express suffered a third straight loss, remaining winless since beaten by the same team in the Fiesta Conference finals.

"I don't know how we did it. We're just finding ways how to win," said Ginebra coach Jong Uichico.

"Surely, Junjun had a big hand on this win. He's a good acquisition since he can shoot from inside and out," Uichico said of the 24-year-old three-year pro -- the first boy of Sonny Cabatu who himself had a stint with Ginebra.

The older Cabatu had a career-best 25 points although his biggest production in his first three years in the pros was only 21.


Junjun, a former La Salle Archer dumped by Alaska after the 2007-08 campaign, went 4-of-7 from the three-point area, 5-of-8 from the two-point land and 1-of-2 from the stripe while also coming through with six rebounds, five assists and two steals along the way.

He pumped in two of his triples in a lethal assault that had the Kings breaking loose from a 90-91 count in the last four minutes of play.

Junthy Valenzuela returned from a one-game layoff, contributing 14 points, three rebounds, two steals and one assist.

Jayjay Helterbrand, Ronald Tubid and Paul Artadi had their own shining moments as Ginebra made a followup on their 89-86 decision over Sta. Lucia.

The Express dominated the game early on, taking a 46-41 halftime lead which they stretched to 62-54 on triples by Arwind Santos and Wynne Arboleda early in the third quarter.

Air21, however, faded out in the fourth as it did in its first two games.

Though playing off-the-bench, Santos paced the Express in the first half with 11 points on 5-of-9 field-goal shooting.

The Air21 starters of Gary David, JR Quinahan, Ranidel de Ocampo and Arboleda combined for 27 points as against the 25 of Helterbrand, Artadi, Crisano and Tubid as the Express took the upper hand at the turn.

The Express performed better in field-goal shooting and rebounding as they surged ahead at halftime after engaging the Gin Kings in seven deadlocks and six lead changes. (NC)


The scores


Ginebra 101 -- Cabatu 23, Helterbrand 21, Valenzuela 14, Tubid 13, Artadi 11, Wilson 6, Crisano 6, Pacana 4, Holper 2, Escalona 1, Salvacion 0.


Air21 92 -- Santos 19, De Ocampo 15, Arboleda 12, David 11, Se 10, Quinahan 8, Billones 7, Intal 4, Cruz 3, Canaleta 3, Kramer 0.

Quarterscores: 22-20, 41-46, 76-77, 101-92

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Lebron23
10-13-2008, 03:05 AM
This guy almost start the season with no team want to sign him.
Good thing that BGK sign this sweet shooting bigman.

Great pickup by the Management, and I hope that this year he will win the PBA Most Improved Player of the Year because Cabatu will get alot of playing time with the Gin Kings.

Lebron23
10-15-2008, 08:56 AM
JUN-JUN CABATU: PLAYING OUT OF DAD’S SHADOWS

Player of the Week October 6 to 12


Tuesday, 14 October 2008

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SANTIAGO “Junjun” Cabatu, Jr. is a chip off the old block.

This the 24-year-old forward proved by dishing out a career game last Sunday to help lift Barangay Ginebra over Air21 last Sunday in the PBA Philippine Cup and prop the injury-plagued Kings’ surprising surge to a share of the lead.

The son of former 12-year pro “Sonny” also earned for himself the honors as the KFC/Accel PBA Press Corps’ Player of the Week for the period October 6-12, for good reason.

The younger Cabatu was directly hired by Welcoat in 2006 before being shipped to Alaska last season and then landed a spot at Barangay Ginebra only after passing a tryout conducted by head coach Jong Uichico.

“We decided on getting Junjun,” related Uichico. “We knew magiging malaking tulong siya because for a big guy he can shoot the ball really well.”

The 6-foot-4 Cabatu proved the trust on him was well-founded by scoring a career-high 23 points and leading the Kings over the Express, 101-92, and giving the perennial crowd-favorites a 2-0 win-loss record and a tie for the lead with Rain or Shine and Alaska.

That is already quite an achievement for the Kings since they first won over defending champion Sta. Lucia Realty, 89-86, Wednesday last week despite playing minus injury-stricken stalwarts Mark Caguioa, Billy Mamaril, Rafi Reavis and Junthy Valenzuela.

Valenzuela returned last Sunday, but it was Eric Menk’s turn to sit it out following a hamstring injury.

To make matters worse, Alex Crisano was hit by a strained calf muscle early in the second half against the Express.

Cabatu then took the time to unload his points that were anchored on 4-of-7 shooting from three-point area, 5-of-8 from two-point land and 1-of-2 from the stripe. He also came through with six rebounds, five assists and two steals along the way.

“He makes our offense look good because he can make the open shot,” said Uichico of Cabatu, who pumped in two of his triples in a lethal assault that had the Kings breaking loose from a 90-91 count in the last four minutes of play.

Junjun’s performance actually came just two days after his father celebrated his 48th birthday and was two point shy of equaling his Dad’s career-high in scoring in a 12-year career that included a stint with Ginebra from 1992 to 1995. (NCo)

bognut
10-15-2008, 10:45 AM
i wonder why alaska gave up this dude...

not even a trade? they just let him go...

vanguard
10-15-2008, 03:43 PM
Junjun Cabatu was hardly a factor for Alaska. They've got Reynel Hugnatan, Sonny Thoss, and now Joe Devance.

Cabatu so far only had 1 impressive game. Let's see as the season progresses if he can live up to that. Solomon Mercado for one, after a 29 point debut, had his numbers decreasing every game.

mayfel
10-20-2008, 07:52 AM
ginebra loss last night againts red bull is a wake up call for the kings
1st tubid get ejected on 2nd quarter with more than 9 minutes left
2nd they rely to much on helterbrand
i think the coaching staff must adressed this problems now tjat caguioa,reavis and mamaril are not available..\hope the kings will bounce back

ricodgame
10-20-2008, 07:54 AM
i wonder why alaska gave up this dude...

not even a trade? they just let him go...

to think that it was Nic Belasco who was traded for him. It is just like they gave Belasco for no one

mayfel
10-23-2008, 02:39 AM
another devastating loss for our beloved ginebra
i hope they will bounce back but with their currrent line up i doubt it
we need cagiuoa back in action because he and jayjay are the heart and soul of kings

joesmoove059
10-23-2008, 09:12 AM
they really need the presence of Mark CAguioa, they don't have any "spark" in their game at all.

Lebron23
01-27-2009, 07:31 PM
Air21 Trade Party

26 Jan 2009

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The Air21 Express made a big move, trading away some players, while clearing some space for key players in preparation for the upcoming Fiesta Conference.

While waiting for the PBA Board to approve their request to be known as Burger King in the next tournament, the Express shook up their roster by trading four key players in separate deals with Purefoods and Barangay Ginebra.

Don Allado, recently acqired from te Talk 'N Text Phone Pals, and KG Canaleta was traded to Purfoods for third-string point guard Chico Lanete, Chad Alonzo , rookie Beau Belga and a 2013 1st round draft pick.

Then the Express sent JC Intal, Doug Kramer and Lanete to the Brgy. Ginebra Kings for its 2012 and 2013 1st round picks.

“These trades are properly planned with the thought of Air21 being competitive this season and in the future,” said Lito Alvarez, Air21’s representative to the PBA Board of Governors. “We wanted to have a balanced lineup without sacrificing quality.”

Alvarez said he hopes the trade would erase the perception that the team is only dealing with Talk ’N Text, the team owned by Manny V. Pangilinan, a minority stockholder in Burger King.

http://www.pba-online.net/


Purefoods, Air21, Ginebra shake up PBA rosters

01/26/2009 | 08:24 PM

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MANILA, Philippines – Already sidelined in the KFC-Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) Philippine Cup, but Purefoods, Air21 and Ginebra still managed to make some last-minute noise just as the season-opening tournament reaches its climax.

On Monday, the Express traded KG Canaleta and Don Allado to the Giants and JC Intal and Doug Kramer to the Kings in a surprising move that shook a line-up previously regarded as a certified contender next conference following the entry of Yeng Guiao as head coach.

The Bert Lina franchise in return got Chad Alonzo, Beau Belga and tough guard Chico Lanete from the Giants plus a 2013 first round pick. They then included Lanete in the deal that sent Intal and Kramer to the Gin Kings in exchange for first round draft choices in 2012 and 2013.

Lito Alvarez, team manager of Air21, confirmed the deal, saying that the move was “properly planned" even though some will surely look at it as a one-sided pact favoring the two sister ball clubs.

“We have a surplus of players with the entry of Cyrus (Baguio) and Celino (Cruz)," said Alvarez. “What we did was to balance our line-up with a properly-planned trade. We are happy with the talents we’ve got. We opted for 2012 and 2013 picks thinking that’s the time when Wynne (Arboleda) and Homer Se are retiring."

Purefoods coach Ryan Gregorio said the entry of Canaleta and Allado is a sure-fire boost to a team that just came off from an unmemorable performance in the KFC PBA Philippine Cup wherein the Giants finished eighth.

“Allado will help us strengthen our rotation in the No.4 (power forward) and No.5 (center) spots. He is a deadly perimeter shooter and has solid post moves while KG is an explosive scorer who can score from the inside and all the way from the three. He is a consistent scorer who can complement the game of Kerby (Raymundo), James (Yap) and Rico (Villanueva)."

For his part, Jong Uichico of Ginebra said that Intal and Kramer will “just fill in our injured spots".

The Gin Kings still have Rafi Reavies and Mark Caguioa on the injured list, one of the key reasons why they bowed out of contention in the ongoing tournament, losing to San Miguel in three games in the quarterfinals. – GMANews.TV

Lebron23
03-05-2009, 03:48 AM
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Rod Nealy is the most dominant Import this Conference after scoring 42 points, grabbing 23 rebounds, and dishing 9 assists as Ginebra defeated the Coca Cola Tigers, 110-103.

The scores:

Ginebra 110 -- Nealy 42, Salvacion 17, Helterbrand 15, Artadi 10, Wilson 8, Tubid 6, Reavis 6, Lanete 4, Intal 2, Menk 0.

Coca-Cola 103 -- Sullinger 28, Cabagnot 22, Buenafe 18, Taulava 14, Macapagal 10, Telan 9, Misolas 2, Calimag 0, Dimaunahan 0, Belasco 0.

Quarterscores: 26-27, 54-45, 79-71, 110-103

k3v1nski
03-06-2009, 08:04 AM
Hello mga KABARANGGAY!....

saints13
03-06-2009, 01:33 PM
I hope JC Intal will blossom now in BGK...it is now or never.. :)

twotimer247
03-07-2009, 01:02 PM
My future hopes for BGK this conference and the years to come:


BGK trade Eric Menk for someone younger..like Carlo Sharma to help Billy Mamaril down low..

Unload their already congested back court. I think Paul Artadi is disposable since Macky Escalona can back-up Jay-jay and shoot from the outside and u have Chico Lanete already..who can be a spark playing 1 or 2. Maybe loading the front line with additional bigmen will do...

saints13
03-07-2009, 05:19 PM
My future hopes for BGK this conference and the years to come:


BGK trade Eric Menk for someone younger..like Carlo Sharma to help Billy Mamaril down low..

Unload their already congested back court. I think Paul Artadi is disposable since Macky Escalona can back-up Jay-jay and shoot from the outside and u have Chico Lanete already..who can be a spark playing 1 or 2. Maybe loading the front line with additional bigmen will do...


why unload Artadi? why not unload Escalona? :)

kerouac82
03-08-2009, 01:27 AM
My future hopes for BGK this conference and the years to come:


BGK trade Eric Menk for someone younger..like Carlo Sharma to help Billy Mamaril down low..

Unload their already congested back court. I think Paul Artadi is disposable since Macky Escalona can back-up Jay-jay and shoot from the outside and u have Chico Lanete already..who can be a spark playing 1 or 2. Maybe loading the front line with additional bigmen will do...

Escalona? He'll have to prove he belongs first. He was better than Artadi was when he first came into the league, but now that Artadi's shooting from the outside, Escalona will have a hard time getting PT. He isn't that quick as Artadi and his shooting isn't as good as Lanete's. He could be a PG for another team, though. Maybe Air21 when they unload Arboleda.

saints13
03-08-2009, 05:40 AM
maybe twotimer247 is an Atenean.. :)

kerouac82
03-08-2009, 02:04 PM
maybe twotimer247 is an Atenean.. :)

Hey, I resent that! I'm an Atenista too! :D

regierr
03-08-2009, 02:20 PM
I'm surprised Escalona is still in the PBA, I don't know how long the Gin Kings signed him but I thought after his rookie season he was going back to the PBL or become a reserved. I predict this will be his last season and he'll soon be headed back to the PBL.

saints13
03-09-2009, 03:40 AM
Hey, I resent that! I'm an Atenista too! :D

well..you're non-partisan..hehehe...but for me, I think Artadi is way more potent than Escalona.

its_eman8211
03-09-2009, 05:10 AM
well..you're non-partisan..hehehe...but for me, I think Artadi is way more potent than Escalona.

I agree too... He can do alot of damage to the opposing team, with his quickness and improved shooting, man, he is much deserving than escalona. And with his tamdem with JJ, they can make a difference.

ThreeStars&aSun
05-18-2009, 04:56 AM
when will Mark Caguioa play again in the PBA?

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jesronne
05-18-2009, 05:07 AM
i really doubt mark can play again this conference

LordOfLeyte
05-18-2009, 07:12 AM
The Fast and the Skyrus.

I wonder if The Furious can still return to his form given his age if re-activated late this season or come next season.

The_Big_Cat
05-18-2009, 07:54 AM
Caguio was supposed to make a comback at this Fiesta Cup.
But I guess his knee is still struggling.

its_eman8211
05-18-2009, 08:05 AM
Caguio was supposed to make a comback at this Fiesta Cup.
But I guess his knee is still struggling.

they will replace his knees with two brand new camel's knee...:D:D:D
hope he can still play... he is one of the great scorer in the PBA

donmar
05-18-2009, 08:18 AM
Yeah I hope he'll be back... its been a while now since Ginebra won something :D:D....

ThreeStars&aSun
05-18-2009, 12:38 PM
Since Mark Caguioa still would not suit up for the Kings. Cyrus Baguio can still get more playing time and improve before the William Jones Cup.

is there any chance that Yeng Guiao will add Mark Caguioa in Team Pilipinas' line up?

donmar
05-18-2009, 12:57 PM
Since Mark Caguioa still would not suit up for the Kings. Cyrus Baguio can still get more playing time and improve before the William Jones Cup.

is there any chance that Yeng Guiao will add Mark Caguioa in Team Pilipinas' line up?

Yup there is... Replace Yeng Guiao...

rhk111
05-18-2009, 01:12 PM
"The Spark"'s game is based on his ankle-breaking ability. He has got to be one of the greatest PBA players never to have won an MVP award, by virtue of his ability to break anybody off the dribble.

The problem is, though, he is getting old. Mark is now, what, 31? Once you get past the 30s, that when you begin to lose your durability. In this case, its Mark's knees. He had one terrific conference, then his knees began to give out. At this rate, you can't expect Mark to last a whole season, playing at the same high level all the time. His body won't be able to take it anymore.

trigun_08
05-19-2009, 01:32 PM
Ginebra’s Baguio faces physical injury charges
05/19/2009 | 04:26 PM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | ShareThisMANILA, Philippines – Barangay Ginebra’s high-leaping guard-forward Cyrus Baguio has been accused of beating up a man during an incident in Quezon City last week.

Bagiuo faces charges of physical injuries after his supposed friend, Herby Joy Estacio, filed a complaint at the Quezon City Prosecutors Office on Monday.

In his complaint, Estacio claimed Baguio and his companion allegedly punched him during a party last May 14 at the house of a certain Lani Illio in UP Village, Quezon City.

According to Estacio, Baguio asked him to go out of the house but he was surprised when the cager allegedly punched him on the face. Baguio’s unnamed companion allegedly threw a punch as well, and the complainant claimed he suffered abrasions, multiple hematoma, contusions and superficial laceration due to the incident.

Speaking on behalf of Baguio, his agent/adviser Danny Espiritu told GMANews.TV that the Ginebra ace would not be making any comment on the incident since, he claimed, “it is too personal not only for himself but also for the family of the complainant."

But Baguio, according to Espiritu, is ready to face his accusers and air his side in the proper forum. – GMANews.TV

donspark47
08-05-2009, 07:21 AM
my opinion...

I'm quit contented for the trade of Enrico Villanueva, Ritch Alvarez, Paolo Bugia and Celino Cruz to release Rafi Reavis, Paul Artadi and rookie Chris Timberlake... BGK needs a reliable frontline, to sacrifice 2 good back up players and rookie PG pick, that's ok if you've got Enrico, Ritch and Celino. Now, BGK have a starting frontline in the name of Enrico Villanueva for the Center-Forward post and 2 good back up players in SF and PG position. to sacrifice Chris, it's ok, because we have Jay-jay, Chico and Celino I think enough men to post a PG position... and get Enrico Villanueva.

for a trade-for me I guess I need to trade Cyrus Baguio and Junthy Valenzuela for another BIG MAN!

Erick Menk
Enrico Villanueva
Ronald Tubid
Mark Caguioa
Jay-jay Helterbrand

Billy Mamaril
Homer Se
Ritch Alvarez
Sunday Salvacion
Celino Cruz

Cyrus Baguio - need a trade
Junthy Valenzuela - need a trade
Doug Kramer
Paolo Bugia
JC Intal
Chris Pacana
Cholo Villanueva

KevinDurant
08-05-2009, 09:33 AM
They won't trade Cyrus or Junthy. IMO they have enough big men to battle with the other teams.

tiffac
08-05-2009, 11:12 AM
Baguio I think is lock under contract and Junthy has just gotten a 1yr extension from the Gins.

There's rumor that BGK is will to trade Cholo for Sharma of BK. (I hope that's true)

I think one more big man will make the Gins formidable as I see it, SMB is still the top and most complete team to beat, unless we get that one more quality big and not a project.

donspark47
08-05-2009, 11:24 AM
I hope BGK get 1 Big man... Cyrus and junthy needs playing time.. that both parties pay off for this trade...

neo
08-05-2009, 11:32 AM
they are loaded at the wings position, especially at off-guard. i think its now time to trade mark caguioa :cool:

salvacion (3-point specialist) and tubid (aggressor in offense and defense) should stay. but management may be more keen on trading either of these two or even both rather than caguioa.

but i still think its time for a new era.

tiffac
08-05-2009, 12:25 PM
BGK has officially mentioned in keeping Jayjay and MC as BGK players. To how long? Who knows but MC will not be traded this season.

KevinDurant
08-05-2009, 01:25 PM
JJ and MC will finish their careers with the Kings. SMC has the tradition of loyalty to its players even after their playing days are over. They can get talented players through bogus trades anyway.

tiffac
08-05-2009, 04:43 PM
Not to mention MC is like an auto marketing tool coz he just can't keep his comments to himself, especially when he jinxes the team by saying "BGK will win the championship". Oh my gulay... (trans: vegetables). lolz!

its_eman8211
08-06-2009, 03:45 AM
MC, JJ and Menk will retire wearing BGK uniform. They loved the team so much, and the fans are so attached to these 3 players, including tubid and salvacion. I know the management will never give up on these players. New BGK main man E-Vill will be the new menk...

icebreaker
08-06-2009, 04:43 AM
Sharma to BGK? Another big man will surely make Ginebra the team to beat in the All-Filipino Conference. Let's just hope this happens.

its_eman8211
08-06-2009, 11:29 AM
Sharma to BGK? Another big man will surely make Ginebra the team to beat in the All-Filipino Conference. Let's just hope this happens.

where did you get that news? if that happens that's good for our team

donspark47
08-07-2009, 12:05 AM
my opinion-

Carlos Sharma for BGK? No big deal! to compete BGK could get better frontline than this guy... if you look SMB and Purefoods... you cannot compete even Burger King! BGK plenty of key players to be release for their playing career likes of Cyrus Baguio anf Junthy Valenzuela for better BIG MAN! this cyrus and junthy can play big in BGK but you have a lot of guards and wings, for me these 2 guyz could be trade!

neo
08-07-2009, 05:48 AM
they are definitely loaded at the wings position and need to unloads

Lebron23
08-31-2009, 06:17 AM
http://www.mb.com.ph/sites/default/files/caguioa.jpg

Mark Caguioa is going to play in the Philippine Cup.

Mr. Furious stats before he was injured.

2007-08 PBA Fiesta Conference Stats

23.12 ppg, 4.56 rpg, 2.62 apg, 0.94 spg, 0.06 bpg, 0.435 FG%, 0.681 FT%




Mark Caguioa will make his return in the coming PBA season after missing the entire season due to tendonitis.

The five-foot-11 Barangay Ginebra guard reported for practice two weeks ago and appeared in top form, retaining the quickness and shooting touch that made him one of the league’s premier players.

“So far so good,” Ginebra coach Jong Uichico said of Caguioa. “He is ready to go, unless his knee acts up.”

Caguioa, 29, sat out last season and spent six months in the United States to rehabilitate his knee.

He was supposed to rejoin the team during the late stage of the Fiesta Cup, but team management decided against fielding him back into action.

With Caguioa’s return, Ginebra is now loaded at the two-guard spot as he will share playing minutes with 2009 Most Valuable Player (MVP) and buddy Jayjay Helterbrand, Cyrus Baguio, and Ronald Tubid. Uichico doesn’t see it as a problem.

The Kings also upgraded their frontline with the recent additions of 6-foot-6 Enrico Villanueva, 6-foot-5 Rich Alvarez and 6-foot-6 Paulo Bugia, joining mainstays Willie Wilson, Billy Mamaril, and former MVP Eric Menk.

“Last season, we really lacked the size. We actually have the size but not quick players compared to the other teams. That’s one of our weak spots,” Uichico said.

The multi-titled mentor said that their new recruits are doing well in practice, trying to fit into the system and finding their right roles to be effective in their campaign to regain the all-Filipino crown they last won in 2006-07 Season.

Despite the addition of new players, Uichico still feels they are not in the same calibre as powerhouse teams like reigning Fiesta Cup champion San Miguel Beer and defending Philippine Cup champion Talk ’N Text.

“We’re just one of the regulars,” Uichico said. “We may have improved particularly on our frontline rotation, malayo kami sa teams like San Miguel Beer and Talk ’N Text. Kumbaga humahabol lang kami sa kanila,” he added.


http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/217785/caguioa-back-top-form-uichico

icebreaker
08-31-2009, 02:11 PM
Go BGK! The next Philippine Cup CHAMPIONS!

Lebron23
09-02-2009, 06:43 AM
Vintage Mark Caguioa


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eriSHoY9Y0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY7J8AtXDKc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyQ9l1YI9PU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Aid7ZQ7jM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glVN5lLYVdU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbSaC4knHck&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr-7e7Zr5Fo

donspark47
10-08-2009, 02:59 AM
welcome rookie player KEVIN WHITE... this guy is a surprise player for BGK... he is like Jay-jay Heleterbrand when he entered PBA from MBA...back up to Bal David...and now Kevin White is born to be star give him 2 years from now...JJ retires...and Kevin White will suit up the starting five...:) he can play no. 2 spot either...

its_eman8211
10-08-2009, 01:52 PM
welcome rookie player KEVIN WHITE... this guy is a surprise player for BGK... he is like Jay-jay Heleterbrand when he entered PBA from MBA...back up to Bal David...and now Kevin White is born to be star give him 2 years from now...JJ retires...and Kevin White will suit up the starting five...:) he can play no. 2 spot either...

What his height and age?

neo
10-08-2009, 03:19 PM
welcome rookie player KEVIN WHITE... this guy is a surprise player for BGK... he is like Jay-jay Heleterbrand when he entered PBA from MBA...back up to Bal David...and now Kevin White is born to be star give him 2 years from now...JJ retires...and Kevin White will suit up the starting five...:) he can play no. 2 spot either...

really? i did not know that jj played in the mba.

manu_bol
10-08-2009, 03:23 PM
really? i did not know that jj played in the mba.

his one and only game, if i'm not mistaken, was against felix belano-led davao eagles. he was schooled by belano in that game...

amamangloy
10-08-2009, 03:25 PM
his one and only game, if i'm not mistaken, was against felix belano-led davao eagles. he was schooled by belano in that game...

saw dat game.... i was surprised seeing him in a Ginebra Uniform a week after!!!

neo
10-08-2009, 03:26 PM
his one and only game, if i'm not mistaken, was against felix belano-led davao eagles. he was schooled by belano in that game...

thanks for d info

neo
10-08-2009, 03:27 PM
saw dat game.... i was surprised seeing him in a Ginebra Uniform a week after!!!

he was not that good when he arrived in the pba

manu_bol
10-08-2009, 03:33 PM
he was not that good when he arrived in the pba

i agree. unlike caguioa who was consistently good. in my opinion, alapag was always better than him.

patay-butiki
10-09-2009, 02:48 PM
atenistas in baranggay ginebra? isn't BGK supposed to be the team of the masa. parang di bagay.... :p

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/174205/former-blue-eagles-reunited-in-ginebra-line-up

http://images.gmanews.tv/header/v2/gmanewsdottv_logo.jpg


Former Blue Eagles reunited in Ginebra line-up
10/09/2009 | 05:11 PM

As the Blue Eagles celebrate their UAAP double championship, after Ateneo’s senior and junior squads defeated UE and La Salle-Zobel in a pair of Game 3 matches Thursday, five former “Men in Blue" found themselves reunited playing for one team in the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA).

Crowd darling Barangay Ginebra Kings got busy during the offseason adding former Blue Eagles Enrico Villanueva, Rich Alvarez and Paolo Bugia to reunite them with regulars JC Intal and Doug Kramer.

Villanueva, Alvarez and Bugia were added to the Kings’ roster following a three-team trade that involved Purefoods and Burger King. The former Ateneans are capable of playing as a starting unit in other teams.

Bugia however, is currently in the reserved list.

Ironically, Jong Uichico, the Barangay Ginebra coach, is a true-blooded Green Archers having played for La Salle in his collegiate days. La Salle and Ateneo are bitter collegiate sports rivals.

But the multi-titled coach said he has not problems with that.

"We're all professionals now, so I think the issue of whether you're an Atenean or a La Sallite is out of the way," said Uichico. "They're adopting quickly to the system and will definitely be ready for the coming season."

Villanueva, Alvarez and Bugia were members of the Ateneo team that won the 2002 UAAP crown while Intal and Bugia were starters for the Blue Eagle squad that was ambushed by the University of Santo Tomas Growling Tigers in the 2006 title series.

Villanueva, Alvarez and Bugia’s addition to Ginebra will give the Kings youth and exuberance in their frontcourt, a factor that was definitely lacking when they lost to the San Miguel Beermen in seven games of the 2009 Fiesta Cup Finals.

Their acquisition also boosted Ginebra's campaign this season as main man Mark Caguioa is set to return to active roster after missing the entire playing calendar last year. – GMANews.TV

Lebron23
10-09-2009, 05:19 PM
he was not that good when he arrived in the pba

He was the backup PG of Bal David, but 10 years later Helterbrand now have a better PBA career than the Flash.

than11
10-09-2009, 05:32 PM
He was the backup PG of Bal David, but 10 years later Helterbrand now have a better PBA career than the Flash.

I still think The Flash retired a couple of years too early..same with the Flying A..Victims of JJ's emergence as top flight PG in the PBA..

its_eman8211
10-09-2009, 07:27 PM
do you have BGK complete line-up?

kerouac82
10-10-2009, 12:35 AM
Bugia was already playing in the pros in 2006, the year Jervy Cruz and UST ambushed Ateneo in the finals. I think the writer was referring to Doug Kramer.

I guess Escalona has been released by BGK. Too bad for him. I've always liked his hard-nosed style of play. Then again, when you're playing behind a Jayjay Helterbrand and Chico Lanete at PG, it's always hard to find PT.

kerouac82
10-10-2009, 12:36 AM
I still think The Flash retired a couple of years too early..same with the Flying A..Victims of JJ's emergence as top flight PG in the PBA..

Injuries did Bal David in.

donspark47
10-10-2009, 04:52 AM
i agree. unlike caguioa who was consistently good. in my opinion, alapag was always better than him.

yah... but JJ is the type of player raised up to the occasion... he carry his team up to the finals with MVP belt... but Alapag is better than JJ in another side coz jimmy is a kind player to set and play on five but he cannot carry the team alone... both players have strong side and weaknesses... :)

donspark47
10-10-2009, 04:58 AM
really? i did not know that jj played in the mba.

he suited up for Batangas Blades correct me if I'm wrong... if I remember he is like Rob Johnson..fast, defender and kind of player to play because the team is lossing for 20 pts. last 2 mins. a joker type of player...darling of the crowd...etc. I'm excited to see KEVIN WHITE to play for BGK.:)

donspark47
10-10-2009, 05:01 AM
What his height and age?

Kevin White 6'0" Guard

donspark47
10-10-2009, 05:18 AM
do you have BGK complete line-up?

Erick Menk - C
Billy Mamaril - C
Enrico Villanueva - C/F
Doug Kramer - F
Rich Alvarez - F
Willy Wilson - F
JC Intal - F
Sunday Salvacion - F
Cyrus Baguio - G/F
Ronald Tubid - G/F
Mark Caguioa - G
Jayjay Helterbrand - G
Celino Cruz - G
Kevin White - G

neo
10-10-2009, 05:36 AM
Erick Menk - C
Billy Mamaril - C
Enrico Villanueva - C/F
Doug Kramer - F
Rich Alvarez - F
Willy Wilson - F
JC Intal - F
Sunday Salvacion - F
Cyrus Baguio - G/F
Ronald Tubid - G/F
Mark Caguioa - G
Jayjay Helterbrand - G
Celino Cruz - G
Kevin White - G


where's junthy?

Coke_Hero
10-10-2009, 05:43 PM
yah... but JJ is the type of player raised up to the occasion... he carry his team up to the finals with MVP belt... but Alapag is better than JJ in another side coz jimmy is a kind player to set and play on five but he cannot carry the team alone... both players have strong side and weaknesses... :)

We could say that Jimmy Alapag plays better when he's playing against other NTs, whereas Jayjay plays better when he's facing local PGs.

FILIPINOMAZTER
10-10-2009, 06:21 PM
wheres super jj now??

donspark47
10-11-2009, 05:51 AM
where's junthy?

reserved player...90% conditioning from the injury...

donspark47
10-11-2009, 05:51 AM
wheres super jj now??

in BGK...:)

Lebron23
10-12-2009, 09:05 AM
Purefoods, San Miguel are stronger than Brgy. Ginebra, but with Mark Caguioa back in our starting lineup I like our team's chances to win the Philippine Cup title.

Caguioa scored 24 points againts the Singapore Slingers in their preseason game.

Cryotek
10-12-2009, 11:33 AM
All SMC teams right now have a pretty solid line-up that can go all the way this conference!

donspark47
10-14-2009, 02:06 AM
Purefoods, San Miguel are stronger than Brgy. Ginebra, but with Mark Caguioa back in our starting lineup I like our team's chances to win the Philippine Cup title.

Caguioa scored 24 points againts the Singapore Slingers in their preseason game.

he is back! strong contender in the finals once again...:)

twilight12
10-14-2009, 05:03 AM
Can you still remember when was the last time MC played?

I think that was game 7 finals Last year against SMB! Chris Alexander was their reinforcement.

Right?

Ironically, SMB will be their opponent tonight.

Go Ginebra!

its_eman8211
10-14-2009, 05:17 AM
Can you still remember when was the last time MC played?

I think that was game 7 finals Last year against SMB! Chris Alexander was their reinforcement.

Right?

Ironically, SMB will be their opponent tonight.

Go Ginebra!

Correction man,

it was AIR21 not SMB.

peace

durden_tyler
10-14-2009, 07:03 AM
i like what Ginebra did to their line-up, with or without an effective Caguioa they are built as contenders... Too bad they are going to lose their first game this conference against my San Miguel :)

its_eman8211
10-14-2009, 03:34 PM
i like what Ginebra did to their line-up, with or without an effective Caguioa they are built as contenders... Too bad they are going to lose their first game this conference against my San Miguel :)

hehehe... BGK won over SMB...
Actually, SMB played well during 1st quarter but when the 2nd unit of BGK entered the court (tubid, alvarez, intal and mamaril) and start playing defense the flow of the game has suddenly change in favor of BGK.

Alvarez was relentless in defense and in hustles.

donspark47
10-15-2009, 06:25 AM
i like what Ginebra did to their line-up, with or without an effective Caguioa they are built as contenders... Too bad they are going to lose their first game this conference against my San Miguel :)

Ginebra subdues pre-tourney fave SMB in fiery start

Mark Caguioa marked his return from a one-year layoff with a 17-point showing Wednesday night, helping Barangay Ginebra get to a winning start in the 2009-2010 KFC PBA Philippine Cup.

With Caguioa pouring 15 in the second half, the Kings sustained the momentum of a decisive second-quarter romp on the way to a 98-86 win over the San Miguel Beermen before a good crowd at the Araneta Coliseum.

Eric Menk and Jayjay Helterbrand also made their presence felt as the Kings got past the team that beat them in a classic title duel in the most recent Fiesta Conference.

"We caught them off-guard. They relaxed a bit as they're probably still feeling championship high. On our part, we just don't want to get beaten again," said Ginebra coach Jong Uichico.

"It's just a first game. Everybody's feeling around, trying to get right chemistry. But it's nice to win. Hopefully, we can get to sustain it throughout the conference," Uichico added.

The Beermen started well but were outmaneuvered and outplayed by the Kings in the last three quarters of the game marred by two flagrant fouls committed by Danny Ildefonso and Denok Miranda on the cocky Ronald Tubid.

Caguioa returned from a long layoff with a flourish, going 7-of-12 from the field and also coming through with two free throws, two rebounds, one assist and one steal in 28 minutes of action.

Uichico said the prolific guard/forward is just about 80 percent back in shape.

"His rehab and strengthening are still going on. Hopefully, he regains his old form during the season," said Uichico of Caguioa who missed the 2008-09 campaign due to knee surgeries.

Menk paced the Kings with 18 points that went with nine rebounds while Helterbrand, the 2009 league MVP, shared 17 points, nine assists and seven rebounds.

Danny Ildefonso led all scorers with 19 points.

The Kings hit their strides in the second period, converting 57.9 percent of their shots to surge ahead, 49-43, at halftime.

They were off to a slow start, outplayed by the Beermen early on as they trailed at 21-29 in the opening period.

Ildefonso was productive coming off the bench, piling up 14 points on 7-of-10 field-goal shooting in the first 24 minutes of play. Menk had nine points and four rebounds also coming off the bench for the Kings. (SB) PBA.ph

The scores:

Ginebra 98 -- Menk 18, Caguioa 17, Helterbrand 17, Tubid 12, Wilson 10, Mamaril 7, Villanueva 6, Intal 4, Baguio 4, Cruz 3, Alvarez 0.

San Miguel 86 -- Ildefonso 19, Cortez 10, Santos 9, Villanueva 8, Hontiveros 8, Miranda 7, Pennisi 7, Tugade 6, Pena 6, Eman 4, Racela 2, Seigle 0.

Quarterscores: 21-29, 49-43, 75-65, 98-86:D

chris25_moon
10-15-2009, 06:31 AM
i like what Ginebra did to their line-up, with or without an effective Caguioa they are built as contenders... Too bad they are going to lose their first game this conference against my San Miguel :)

Ginebra...Ginebra...Ginebra...score: 98-86 vs SMB... GINEBRA WINS THE FIRST GAME...:D

twilight12
10-16-2009, 03:07 AM
Correction man,

it was AIR21 not SMB.

peace

OK man! thanks for the correction.

yeah! that was air21!

durden_tyler
10-16-2009, 08:21 AM
San Miguel played well for 12 minutes, but Ginebra played better for 36.

Good win for Ginebra. And yeah, we sucked during the opening night. :D

neo
10-18-2009, 10:19 AM
big game tonight for bgk and pf

rico needs to dominate inside and rich and willie must shut down kerby

bgk must watch out for pf's strong start though and play defense from the opening tip

donspark47
10-18-2009, 01:24 PM
RESULT
(2-0) Ginebra 95 vs (1-1) Purefoods 87:D:D:D

chris25_moon
10-18-2009, 01:39 PM
Congratulations Barangay Ginebra Gin Kings

yahoo... 95-87 what a nice game!:)

durden_tyler
10-18-2009, 07:40 PM
What a game for Ronald Tubid. i expected a close affair but again, Ginebra showed better control and composure during the 4th quarter to crunchtime.

But you know what? Am not too worried, Ginebra is more, more dangerous when they are the underdogs, i do hope they earn a perfect record in the eliminations :D

twilight12
10-19-2009, 03:45 AM
Pretty well game plan, focus and strategy of BGK vs. PF last night.

on the defensive end, ginebra is confusing purefoods players on the type of defense the BGK are giving them.

For instance, Kerby vs. Tubid which is a mismatch, James vs JJ and Kerby vs. JJ

Thanks for the coaching staff for a job well done.

on the offensive end, they are pushing Kerby and james to the limit.

they make these 2 1-2 punch of purefoods busy on the defensive end.

JJ, tubid and Baguio attacked the defense of james,

Billy and Wilson also held their grounds against kerby.

They kept the kid play for defense.

Go ginebra.

We can win even we are minus major pain.

icebreaker
10-19-2009, 10:38 AM
Ginebra is winning convincingly even though Villanueva, Alvarez, Menk, Baguio and Caguioa were on the bench. This team is really scary! The starting 5 is as good as the 2nd unit. I really hope they become champion again! :)

durden_tyler
10-19-2009, 10:48 AM
While teams like Ginebra has been loading up on "role" players, SMB has been adding "stars"

As an SMB fan, i am bound to have a long year...

icebreaker
10-19-2009, 11:20 AM
Yes, Ginebra has a lot of role players and defensive players too. They are winning in the 4th quarter while playing their best defensive players that can score too at crunch time: Mamaril, Wilson, Tubid, Salvacion, Helterbrand

neo
10-19-2009, 12:09 PM
What a game for Ronald Tubid. i expected a close affair but again, Ginebra showed better control and composure during the 4th quarter to crunchtime.

But you know what? Am not too worried, Ginebra is more, more dangerous when they are the underdogs, i do hope they earn a perfect record in the eliminations :D

but also remember that the last time they ruled an all-filipino joust was when they were one of the top 2 teams and they were pretty much solid the whole elims of that conference (2006-2007)

twilight12
10-21-2009, 09:50 AM
caguioa will sit out for a week due to swollen left knee

Lebron23
10-23-2009, 10:08 PM
Great Game from Ronald Tubid.

:):):)

nardy
10-25-2009, 10:01 AM
http://firequinito.com/archives/209-JC-Intal-is-having-a-good-week.html (http://firequinito.com/archives/209-JC-Intal-is-having-a-good-week.html)

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:T-j3vF06zlgqNM:http://firequinito.com/templates/firequinito/img/banner.jpg

JC Intal is having a good week

Ginebra forward JC Intal has had lots of reason to smile over the past week. First, Lolit Solis reported that his supposed break-up with Rosalinda star Carla Abellana (http://firequinito.com/archives/204-Fire-Quinito-links-Showbiz-na-showbiz-edition.html) was just a showbiz gimmick to generate publicity for the soap opera.

Then last Friday, Intal put on a aerial show in Ginebra’s 100-72 beatdown of the hapless Smart Gilas, punctuated by a couple of two-handed slams. “The Rocket” looks like he’s got his mojo back.


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The Philippine Entertainment Portal reached Carla for comment, and the actress talked about the sweet photos of her and Intal (http://www.pep.ph/news/23651/Carla-Abellana-comments-on-sweet-photos-of-her-and-ex-boyfriend-in-tabloid):


For Carla, however, the shots showed nothing romantic between them, especially the holding hands shots.

"Nagho-holding hands kami kasi lagi akong nadadapa o natatapilok," explained Carla. "Palagi niya akong gina-guide. Totoo 'yan, promise. Saka 'yan si JC sweet na tao. Holding hands does not necessarily mean you're together as boyfriend and girlfriend."

Glad we cleared that up.


http://firequinito.com/uploads/carla-abellana-jc-intal-2.jpg

Posted by jaemark on October 25, 2009 at 14:58


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Zero
10-25-2009, 11:03 AM
Lucky dude haha! :D

Alex07
10-25-2009, 11:32 AM
let's get Intal for Gilas..wait,if that happens let's replace the name of the team Smart...Ateneo Gilas :D

icebreaker
10-26-2009, 12:06 PM
I like the way JC Intal plays. This guy can really fly! I hope he can get consistent 25 + minutes of playing time for him to be able to show his true worth.

kerouac82
10-27-2009, 02:05 AM
let's get Intal for Gilas..wait,if that happens let's replace the name of the team Smart...Ateneo Gilas :D

I was actually waiting for BGK to change its name to "GSM Blue Eagles". :D

ricodgame
10-27-2009, 09:39 AM
I believe JC is 6'4 that can play the number two spot.. I am still hoping that he will soon become a star for his team.. well he will not become one if he stays with ginebra because they have baguio, tubid and caguioa playing the same position..

its_eman8211
10-27-2009, 06:22 PM
JC Intal will play a great role in BGK campaign this season.
Coming of the bench he is expected to provide some scoring and played relentless defense.

donspark47
10-31-2009, 03:00 AM
Cyrus Baguio needs a trade for a bigman...

Cyrus Baguio for Samigue Eman + rookie pick

twilight12
11-05-2009, 03:01 AM
[English or provide translation]

than11
11-05-2009, 01:34 PM
[English or provide translation]

the 2009 MVP..

twilight12
11-19-2009, 09:53 AM
What happened to sunday salvation? He did not suit up in their last game against SLR.

rocketstar47
03-22-2010, 04:43 AM
The Barangay Ginebra Kings and import Awvee Storey ended their first game together with a good story to tell. Storey had a decent debut in the local pro league, coming through with 33 points and 16 rebounds to lead the Kings to a 97-90 win over the Talk n Text Tropang Texters in the opening day of the PBA Fiesta Conference at the Araneta Coliseum Sunday. Mark Caguioa, Ronald Tubid and Jayjay Helterbrand contributed at least 11 points each as the Kings kept their streak over Texters in their head-on duels dating back to the recent Philippine Cup. The two teams figured in a best-of-five quarters duel in the last conference with Ginebra emerging the winner, completing a comeback from a 0-2 deficit. Storey definitely had a big hand as the Kings made a triumphant Fiesta Cup start after finishing fourth in the all-Filipino tourney. A product of Arizona State with a three-year stint in the NBA, Storey went 13-of-25 from the field and 6-of-6 from the stripe, and also got two assists, one steal and one block in 38 minutes of play. He more than held his own against Shawn Daniels, a veteran PBA import with three conferences played with Air21. “Storey is not that spectacular but he’s an all-around player. He’s got little of everything and we’re hoping he can compliment the team,” said Ginebra coach Jong Uichico. “He’s a hard worker as he’s been showing in practice. Hopefully, he continues to be that way and really compliment the team,” Uichico added. “Maganda result ng first game. But he’s now scouted so things would be different in the next games.” Storey got off to a good start and showed staying power, helping the Kings to a finish steadier than that of the Texters. Emotions appeared to be still high in the early rematch of the two teams that engaged in a passionate playoff series in the last conference. At one point in the second half, Ranidel de Ocampo sent Storey to the floor on a hard tackle meriting a flagrant foul call from the referees. It would be remembered that De Ocampo himself committed an infraction that triggered a controversy in Game Four of the Ginebra-Talk n Text quarters duel in the Philippine Cup. Daniels, De Ocampo and Mark Cardona led the Talk n Text challenge as they fought the Kings through 14 deadlocks and 22 lead changes. Daniels churned out 19 points and 16 rebounds, Cardona tallied 19 points, three steals and two rebounds while De Ocampo chipped in 14 points and three rebounds. Storey and Caguioa, however, outplayed and outscored Daniels and Cardona in the payoff period, fueling a hot charge with their combined output of 23 points.

LordOfLeyte
03-22-2010, 06:33 AM
Storey maybe the most senior among the foreign players playing in this conference but I look for his veteran ruggedness and mental toughness to chip in once Ginebra furthers their campaign.

Lebron23
07-04-2010, 04:32 AM
Alaska Aces vs. Brgy. Ginebra Gin Kings

Chris Daniels was very impressive in his PBA Debut. ( 19 points, 19 rebounds).

donspark47
07-07-2010, 03:49 AM
Ginebra will have a good chance to won the spot for semis vs Alaska Aces...:)

donspark47
07-07-2010, 03:54 AM
Ginebra vs Alaska

Daniels - Simpson = even
Hatfield - DeVance = adv. alaska
Tubid - Dela Cruz = adv. Ginebra
Caguioa - Baguio = adv. Ginebra
Helterbrand - Tenorio = adv. Ginebra

Menk - Thoss = even
Villanueva - Hugnatan = adv. Ginebra
Intal - Borboran = adv. Ginebra
Miller - Fornacier = adv. Ginebra
Cortez - Cablay = adv. Ginebra

De Ocampo - Eman = adv. Ginebra
Ferriols - Burtscher = adv. Ginebra
Wilson - Dela Pena = adv. Ginebra
Salvacion - Cariaso = adv. Ginebra
Cruz - Robinson = adv. Ginebra

nardy
07-07-2010, 04:34 AM
Ginebra vs Alaska

Daniels - Simpson = even
Hatfield - DeVance = adv. alaska
Tubid - Dela Cruz = adv. Ginebra
Caguioa - Baguio = adv. Ginebra
Helterbrand - Tenorio = adv. Ginebra

Menk - Thoss = even
Villanueva - Hugnatan = adv. Ginebra
Intal - Borboran = adv. Ginebra
Miller - Fornacier = adv. Ginebra
Cortez - Cablay = adv. Ginebra

De Ocampo - Eman = adv. Ginebra
Ferriols - Burtscher = adv. Ginebra
Wilson - Dela Pena = adv. Ginebra
Salvacion - Cariaso = adv. Ginebra
Cruz - Robinson = adv. Ginebra


with Fil-ams Menk, Hatfield, Caguiao, Helterbrand, Wilson and Cortez .... I wonder how pro-homegrown Marlou Aquino would fit in.

its_eman8211
07-07-2010, 10:28 AM
with Fil-ams Menk, Hatfield, Caguiao, Helterbrand, Wilson and Cortez .... I wonder how pro-homegrown Marlou Aquino would fit in.

what do you mean sir nardy?
marlou will play for bgk?

capitantiago
07-07-2010, 11:20 AM
with Fil-ams Menk, Hatfield, Caguiao, Helterbrand, Wilson and Cortez .... I wonder how pro-homegrown Marlou Aquino would fit in.

he could fit in. bgk is home for the aged. lol

c_d
07-19-2010, 10:34 PM
Denham Brown of Ginebra is part of the Canadian developmental team

http://basketball.ca/en/hm/inside.php?id=4303

crenshaw
07-20-2010, 02:17 AM
ginebra should not have traded cyrus baguio.

ronald tubid, intal, broken - caguiao over him :confused:

BlueChip
07-20-2010, 02:42 AM
Ayos!!! Champions baby

Aqua Light
07-20-2010, 10:18 AM
ginebra should not have traded cyrus baguio.

ronald tubid, intal, broken - caguiao over him :confused:

Cyrus is young they need OLD players
BGK Barangay Gurang Kings :D :D :D

donspark47
07-21-2010, 04:29 AM
BGK must trade some guard players for big guys...JC Intal must be given a starting post for no. 3 spot he is young to train and lots of potentials to be superstar in the PBA.

STARTERS

ERICK MENCK - C 6'6"
ENRICO VILLANUEVA - C/F 6'5"
JC INTAL - F 6'4"
MARK CAGUIOA - G 6'0"
JJ HELTERBRAND - G 6'0"

BENCH

YANCY DE OCAMPO - C 6'9"
BIG MAN TRADE - C/F FOR WILLIE MILLER
SUNDAY SALVACION - F 6'3"
RONALD TUBID - G 6'2"
MIKE CORTEZ - G 5'11"

RUDY HATFIELD - F 6'3"
CELINO CRUZ - G 5'9"

Trade for Willie Miller because BGK needs a good or young big man and Miller will also a big help for other teams in the back court.

Lebron23
07-21-2010, 07:12 AM
BGK must trade some guard players for big guys...JC Intal must be given a starting post for no. 3 spot he is young to train and lots of potentials to be superstar in the PBA.

STARTERS

ERICK MENCK - C 6'6"
ENRICO VILLANUEVA - C/F 6'5"
JC INTAL - F 6'4"
MARK CAGUIOA - G 6'0"
JJ HELTERBRAND - G 6'0"

BENCH

YANCY DE OCAMPO - C 6'9"
BIG MAN TRADE - C/F FOR WILLIE MILLER
SUNDAY SALVACION - F 6'3"
RONALD TUBID - G 6'2"
MIKE CORTEZ - G 5'11"

RUDY HATFIELD - F 6'3"
CELINO CRUZ - G 5'9"

Trade for Willie Miller because BGK needs a good or young big man and Miller will also a big help for other teams in the back court.Draft Jay R Taganas in the 2nd round.

aaron.19
09-11-2010, 11:36 PM
as of sempter 10..
Gin Kings to evaluate their team’s roster


Anthony "Jayjay" Helterbrand
13 - Guard
Celino Cruz
1 - Guard
Christopher Daniels
- Forward
Enrico Villanueva
23 - Center/Forward
Eric Menk(+)
30 - Center/Forward

Hubert John Ferriols
55 - Forward
J.C. Intal
9 - Forward
Mark Caguioa(+)
47 - Guard
Mike Cortez
1 - Guard
Ronald Tubid
71 - Guard

Rudy Hatfield
99 - Forward
Sunday Salvacion
80 - Forward
Willie Miller
11 - Guard
Willie Wilson
27 - Forward
Yancy de Ocampo
18 - Center

Aqua Light
09-12-2010, 12:39 PM
Pls. read the rules of this forum and provide english translation :)

peace :D

Lebron23
01-03-2011, 10:25 AM
Ginebra stunner Caguioa is 'Week's Best'

abs-cbnNEWS.com

Posted at 12/31/2010 6:12 PM | Updated as of 01/01/2011 9:45 PM

http://www.pba.ph/images/blogs/122610%20pow%20Caguiao_header.jpg

MANILA, Philippines – Crowd favorite Mark "The Spark" Caguioa of the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) recently took home the Accel-PBA Press Corps Player of the Week honor, for his performance in the period of December 20 to 26.

He was acknowledged to have led Barangay Ginebra Kings in their in back-to-back victories over the Alaska Aces in their quarterfinal duel, as stated in a PBA.ph report. For both games, he bolstered the team with 20 points each.

The Kings now advance to the semifinals of the 2010-2011 PBA Philippine Cup.

Ginebra coach Jong Uichico praised the 31-year-old guard Caguioa on his feat: “He has matured so much as a player."

“He has evolved from scorer to playmaker to defender, especially in our Alaska series,” Uichico added. “He is the epitome of our never-say-die spirit.”

Caguiao's efforts bolstered the Kings in the best-of-three series after succumbing to a 101-104 loss against the Aces in the opener.

On Christmas Day though, Caguioa brought the competition back to the Cuneta Astrodome, with 16 of his points in the second half contributing to the 79-70 victory.

Caguioa also scored 7 points in the first and third quarters.

Ginebra's other players Rudy Hatfield and Ronald Tubid also contributed in the back-to-back victories. Hatfield registered 13 points and 15.5 rebounds while Rubid had 13.5 points.

From the brink of elimination, Ginebra is now in the race-to-four semis against San Miguel Beer.


http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12/31/10/ginebra-stunner-caguioa-weeks-best

kikomatsing
01-03-2011, 12:06 PM
GO BGK!...

lets nail this SMB team!

Lebron23
01-04-2011, 04:50 AM
Ginebra, Ginebra, Ginebra, Ginebra

Never Say die attitude

sergio23
01-04-2011, 05:15 AM
Cyrus is young they need OLD players
BGK Barangay Gurang Kings :D :D :D

they need to loan their gurang players to Smart kulang sa GULANG Nat'l Team?:p

BGK is BGK they are contenders and for me they are the champion! :cool:

kikomatsing
01-05-2011, 05:30 AM
they need to loan their gurang players to Smart kulang sa GULANG Nat'l Team?:p

BGK is BGK they are contenders and for me they are the champion! :cool:

at last we agree on this one!
:D

Lebron23
02-14-2011, 08:00 AM
Ginebra have a very good import this conference.

kikomatsing
02-14-2011, 08:02 AM
GO BGK!.

Its time!

Lebron23
02-14-2011, 08:12 AM
Go Mark Caguioa. He's finally back last conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY8Ted3ldN4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sry3xGgG-E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7K0Hq3FmU

Lebron23
02-19-2011, 07:33 AM
Super Import Nate Brumfield with a good PBA debut. He had 32 points, 11 rebounds, and 8 assists in his first game with the Ginebra Gin Kings.

Mark Caguioa led the locals in scoring with 20 points.

Lebron23
04-16-2011, 08:53 AM
That was one of the best game of the season. Nice win by the BGK Gin Kings National team. It was a very physical game.

Beastly
04-16-2011, 11:15 AM
I have a feeling this will be the conference :))

kikomatsing
04-16-2011, 02:04 PM
BGK toh!

ALL THE WAY!

nowitzki_21
04-16-2011, 04:06 PM
BGK toh!

ALL THE WAY!

Suddenly this thread is alive:D

QWERTY1234
04-17-2011, 04:35 AM
THEY SHOULD SEND BGK to FIBA ASIA 2011 in WUHAN instead of GILAS....



BGK toh!

ALL THE WAY!

ARISTOTLE
04-17-2011, 06:20 AM
THEY SHOULD SEND BGK to FIBA ASIA 2011 in WUHAN instead of GILAS....

wow, great suggestion. then we should expect a 15th place finish then.

SG 3000
04-17-2011, 06:31 AM
I have a feeling this will be the conference :))

hopefully. but i still see tnt winning their first ever (regular) import-reinforced conference.

SG 3000
04-17-2011, 06:33 AM
wow, great suggestion. then we should expect a 15th place finish then.

patulan ba :eek: trans: he's a funny guy

ARISTOTLE
04-17-2011, 06:36 AM
patulan ba :eek: trans: he's a funny guy

Very funny guy indeed. so funny he thinks he makes sense.

SG 3000
04-17-2011, 06:40 AM
Very funny guy indeed. so funny he thinks he makes sense.

don't worry mate, its the pba playoffs. i would like to believe that many of those ginebra fans booing gilas in the pba semis will root for gilas in wuhan, china.

kikomatsing
04-17-2011, 12:23 PM
sabi nga e..

BGK is my NATIONAL TEam!.


THIS IS CORRECT AS PER TODAY'S GILAS GAME!.

heheheheehe!...


BGK na talaga toh!

Pugad-Pagod
04-17-2011, 01:10 PM
Stick a fork in 'em. Gilas is done for this conference. Even if they win the next game on Wednesday, winning three straight is next to impossible. I think TnT takes this confy for a nice back-to-back.

BGK in FIBA? You've got to be fucking kidding me. Yeah, they're beating Gilas, but in the international game, they'd get crushed underfoot like bugs. I'd still take Gilas in the international games ... these guys have a fairly impressive record as compared to past NT squads.

Don't be too much of mindless fanboy kiko. Use that noodle in between your ears once in a while. It'll do you some good.

:cool:

QWERTY1234
04-17-2011, 02:17 PM
its very clear BGK is better than GILAS,,,,,
Baka sa SEA GAMES lang mahirapan pa ang GILAS....



sabi nga e..

BGK is my NATIONAL TEam!.


THIS IS CORRECT AS PER TODAY'S GILAS GAME!.

heheheheehe!...


BGK na talaga toh!

Lebron23
04-17-2011, 03:24 PM
I have a feeling this will be the conference :))

Ginebra are the Giant Killers. I still couldn't believe that they are 2-0 againts Smart Gilas.

frenzfries
04-17-2011, 03:25 PM
its very clear BGK is better than GILAS,,,,,
Baka sa SEA GAMES lang mahirapan pa ang GILAS....

well Gilas i think only used 70 percent of their potential to avoid injuries which could be a major problem come fiba-asia so i think this series is like one team was just enjoying the game not aiming for a title while the other one is fighting hard and die-trying to enter finals which is Ginebra. And oh by the way where's the sense of pride in your Ginebra?PBA?haha and if in case you reply the where's the sense in pride seeing Gilas lose well i will still call them National Team that will represent us in Wuhan and make us proud whether they get the title or not at least i'm not in a "balimbing bandwagon".:D:):D

Beastly
04-17-2011, 03:27 PM
To be honest, I didn't see this happening too. Oh well 2-0 is not yet safe. But I hope they don't choke.

angmamatayngdahilsa'yo
04-18-2011, 09:14 AM
the forum accounts of kikomatsing and qwerty1234 are being run by just one man. their ridiculous grammar says it all.

Roseblade13
04-18-2011, 11:16 AM
Well BGK is a good team specially homecourt too bad it's management only care about the PBA

hehe..............

Beastly
04-18-2011, 11:20 AM
http://www.pba.ph/images/blogs/Caguioa1_header.jpg

THIS COMPETITOR HATES LOSING
Published on April 18, 2011
Player of the Week April 11 to 17

ANY coach would like a Mark Caguioa on his team. For sure, Barangay GInebra’s Jong Uichico does.

“Mark Caguioa is a competitor. He’s a fighter, ayaw magpatalo,” said Uichico of the prolific
guard-forward chosen as the Accel-PBA Press Corps Player of the Week for the period April 11 to 17
after helping boost the Kings into the semifinals and tantalizingly close to a Commissioner’s Cup
Finals stint.

“It’s really nice to have a player like (him) in your team. It’s positive.”He’s just so
competitive that he wants to win… and sometimes you’d rather have that than somebody who won’t
fight at all.”

Such a competitive spirit was translated into more concrete form by the 2001 Rookie of the Year to
the tune of 21.3 points, 8.0 rebounds, 2.7 assists and 1.3 steals in the three victories Ginebra
notched in the week that was.

He highlighted his sterling performances with a 30-point, 11-rebound game in a 92-82 win against
Rain or Shine last Wednesday, enabling Ginebra to buck an unusually cold night from import Nate
Brumfield.

Brumfield shot just 4-for-12 from the field and wound with just 12 points. That didn’t matter
though, no little thanks to Caguioa’s best performance since the 2010 Fiesta Conference, as the
Kings wrapped up their best-of-three quarterfinals duel with the Elasto Painters, 2-1.

In the first two games of the race-to-three semis match-up with No. 2 seed Smart-Gilas, Brumfield
picked up his game and led Ginebra to 97-96 and 110-103 triumphs. But Caguioa remained the top local
King by averaging 17.0 points in those outings.

Those wins pushed Ginebra within another of booking a seat in the championship series and Caguioa is
one player sure to crank up his game even more if that objective is realized.

That should spell even more bad news for the opposition.

Caguioa beat out Talk N Text’s Ranidel de Ocampo (18.5 points, 7.5 rebounds in two semis games)
for his second such citation for the conference after being similarly honored for the period March
24-30. (NC)

kikomatsing
04-18-2011, 12:11 PM
cant wait till wednesday!.

let the carnage begin!
:)

Lebron23
04-18-2011, 01:28 PM
I hope Mark Caguioa wins his 2nd PBA Best Player of the Conference Award.

frenzfries
04-18-2011, 03:44 PM
even Gilas is down 2-0, i still believe it will go on to Game 5 and Gilas will rise again.

Beastly
04-19-2011, 02:05 AM
I hope Mark Caguioa wins his 2nd PBA Best Player of the Conference Award.

Well his Flagrants on Game 1 reviewed could mean subtraction on SPs if im not mistaken every Flagrants means 15 points. So 15x2= 30. I hope they doesn't subtract it since it was not called and game could have been different if they did called it. Right now he's number 3 to JDV and LA so technically number 1 since both of those guys are eliminated already

kikomatsing
04-19-2011, 03:47 AM
even Gilas is down 2-0, i still believe it will go on to Game 5 and Gilas will rise again.

pre.
pray!.. it'll help your undertakings and will easiily accept the fact that GILAS will never make it!
tanggapin mo nalang pre!!!ganun talaga..mapait man ang mundo..pero kelangan mag move on!

Go BGK!
:)

Lebron23
04-20-2011, 07:59 AM
Nate Brumfeld should win the PBA Best Import Award. The kid is only 22 yrs.old, but he's playing like a veteran.


Well his Flagrants on Game 1 reviewed could mean subtraction on SPs if im not mistaken every Flagrants means 15 points. So 15x2= 30. I hope they doesn't subtract it since it was not called and game could have been different if they did called it. Right now he's number 3 to JDV and LA so technically number 1 since both of those guys are eliminated already

I couldn't agree more. The Spark wasted 2 years of his PBA Career due to injuries, but it's nice to see him regaining his older form. The 2007 PBA Season was his most productive season in his entire PBA Career.

b3lowzro
04-20-2011, 08:33 AM
Nate Brumfeld should win the PBA Best Import Award. The kid is only 22 yrs.old, but he's playing like a veteran.


i think he's 24, LD Williams is the youngest import at 22 years old.

Lebron23
04-20-2011, 09:31 AM
i think he's 24, LD Williams is the youngest import at 22 years old.
Thanks for the correction.

Nate Brumfeld and LD Williams are two of the beefiest import in the PBA this conference.

BGK_Panatiks
04-20-2011, 10:09 AM
pre.
pray!.. it'll help your undertakings and will easiily accept the fact that GILAS will never make it!
tanggapin mo nalang pre!!!ganun talaga..mapait man ang mundo..pero kelangan mag move on!

Go BGK!
:)

Wawawiwa ur a religous monkey u.I tink 2 gilas will not win uber may baranggay hinebra kings yeo! I hop day wil unleash eric da indian look alike menk yeo! and let me have sum super dribol Kagiwa pls! Da way the Hinebra is playing they cud even bit the miami hit yeo! Anoder pba tsampyonship will only mean anoder trophy in da trophy case of Baranggay Gin Bulag,Labet! :o

angmamatayngdahilsa'yo
04-20-2011, 10:32 AM
Wawawiwa ur a religous monkey u.I tink 2 gilas will not win uber may baranggay hinebra kings yeo! I hop day wil unleash eric da indian look alike menk yeo! and let me have sum super dribol Kagiwa pls! Da way the Hinebra is playing they cud even bit the miami hit yeo! Anoder pba tsampyonship will only mean anoder trophy in da trophy case of Baranggay Gin Bulag,Labet! :o

:D LOL!

as much as i want to hate your jejemon account, i cant help but laugh with this post. haha! cool dude!

QWERTY1234
04-20-2011, 12:06 PM
the way they play now.....the reality is.......GILAS has zero chance to be TOP 5 in asia by 2011.

BGK_Panatiks
04-20-2011, 12:10 PM
the way they play now.....the reality is.......GILAS has zero chance to be TOP 5 in asia by 2011.

wow asia ha? i donut no anything about dat.All i care 4 is winning da baranggay tsampyonship and my boso dyaryo evry morning.i bet my pwet dose asia teams wud not win in our liga bcoz our referi lives in da same baranggay.i know wer u live ref.tenk u.labet.

QWERTY1234
04-20-2011, 12:13 PM
wow asia ha? i donut no anything about dat.All i care 4 is winning da baranggay tsampyonship and my boso dyaryo evry morning.tenk u

Which planet are you living?:)

BGK_Panatiks
04-20-2011, 12:15 PM
Which planet are you living?:)

not in ur planet and not kikos duh..das da planet op di eyps yeo.tenk u

kaiziken_pinas
04-20-2011, 01:35 PM
jejemon ^

no breeding. kawawang pulubi

kisssabayhug
04-20-2011, 02:24 PM
It's a joke account. The guy's intentionally trolling BGK fans. :D

angmamatayngdahilsa'yo
04-20-2011, 02:33 PM
It's a joke account. The guy's intentionally trolling BGK fans. :D

a dose of kiko's own medicine.

theImbaguy
04-20-2011, 02:39 PM
jejemon ^

no breeding. kawawang pulubi

and to think he has all the time in the world to create multiple accounts. Thats terruble. no lifer who lives in his moms basement. and the worst part is his talking/replying to himself.
what a douchefag. get a life...

b3lowzro
04-20-2011, 03:05 PM
quote of the day


Kikomatsing, where art thou?

kikomatsing
04-20-2011, 03:26 PM
its a great game between BGK & GILAS>

GILAS somehow contain MC47 and somewhat Nate..

GOOD JOB GILAS!...


bawi kami next time!
:)

3-1 na toh....for sure!

BGK_Panatiks
04-20-2011, 10:08 PM
and to think he has all the time in the world to create multiple accounts. Thats terruble. no lifer who lives in his moms basement. and the worst part is his talking/replying to himself.
what a douchefag. get a life...

U must be hurting yeo but u know wat?das ok.and I donut live in da basement duh I prabably have a beter haus Dan u do.tank u.labet.hi kiks nice geym no? Hahahays

ramzaruglia
04-21-2011, 12:38 AM
and to think he has all the time in the world to create multiple accounts. Thats terruble. no lifer who lives in his moms basement. and the worst part is his talking/replying to himself.
what a douchefag. get a life...

Hey, I live in a basement, and I'm not a douchebag, I'm a nerd...:p

Anyway, these two trolls must be eradicated, pronto!

jamalsampson
04-21-2011, 06:50 PM
Here's a sample on how Ginebra would fare vs one the Top Teams in Asia:


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jamalsampson
04-21-2011, 07:01 PM
Ginebra vs South Korea's SK Knights in 2006:


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Ginebra vs South Korea's SK Knights in 2010:


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Alex07
04-22-2011, 03:41 AM
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ariel_muhlach
04-22-2011, 03:45 PM
This is the Ginebra I knew to love:


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kikomatsing
04-25-2011, 03:21 AM
CONGRATS TO BGK!
for baggin the rights to play the FINALS vs TNT!


after the annihalation (GILAS) comes the obliteration (TNT)!.


go for the KILL!


BGK COMMISIONERS CUP CHAMPIONS!!!!

nowitzki_21
04-25-2011, 04:13 PM
9glcJFYS-7A&feature=player_embedded#at=48

Sinusundan ko ang bawat laro
Ng koponan kong lumalago
Sinusundan ko ang bawat galaw
Hanggang sa Visayas at Mindanao
Tulad din ng swerte ng tao
Ang aking team na pabagubago
Gordon's at Gilbey's, St. George at Tondeña
Ngayo'y Ginebra na uli ang Ginebra

Maraming taon na ang nagdaan
Players at coaches na naglipatan
Marami ng ligang tinatayo
At senador na nga pala si Jawo
Ganyan ang buhay sa ating bayan
Ang basketbol ay tulad din ng halalan
Pag nananalo ay mapayapa
Pag natatalo ay nadadaya:D

Pagbigyan nyo na ako
Paminsan-minsan lang ito
Gumaang ang nabibigatang puso
Pagbigyan nyo na ako
Kahit na kahit paano
Sumaya ng bahagya itong mundo

Sinusundan ko ang bawat taon
Mula ng ako'y musmos pa noon
Nakatanim na sa aking dibdib
Mga alaalang nakakaantig
Ang walk-out sa ULTRA ng Añejo
Ang winning shot ni Rudy Distrito
At ang sayang hinding-hindi ko malimot
Sa tuwing maglalaro na si Ed Ducut

Kahit saang sulok ng ating bansa
Mga tagahanga ay dumadagsa
Dukha't marangya, bata't matanda
Babae't lalake, tomboy at bakla
Ngunit kagaya ng sineng madrama
Kung mayrong bida ay may kontrabida
May mangilan-ngilan ding kumokontra
At ayaw na ayaw sa Ginebra

Pagbigyan nyo na sila
At pagpasensyahan nyo na
Tulad din nating malayang magpasya
Pagbigyan nyo na sila
Nahihiya lang ang iba
Ngunit sa loob Ginebra rin pala:D

Sa bawat gabing kami'y magwagi
At abot-tenga ang aking ngiti
Bawat balita'y pinakikinggan
Lahat ng dyaryo inaabangan

O kayganda ng aking umaga
Feeling ko ako'y dalagang-dalaga
At si Bal David ay wala pang asawa
Tuwing nananalo ang Ginebra

Sa barangay ng magkakabarkada
Buong bansa'y magkakakilala
Dumadagundong ang sigaw ng masa
Hanggang ngayon ay Ginebrang Ginebra

international88
04-26-2011, 03:23 AM
Ginebra will win game number 1. It will be a tight, emotional, and a player or coach might be ejected.

Close game. Around 1-3 points spread.

After Game 1
Ginebra will lead the series 1-0

durden_tyler
04-26-2011, 03:47 AM
Ginebra will win game number 1. It will be a tight, emotional, and a player or coach might be ejected.

Close game. Around 1-3 points spread.

After Game 1
Ginebra will lead the series 1-0

Can you also tell us if somebody will walk out? Thanks.

Jay P. Mercado
04-26-2011, 04:03 AM
Tnt would need to jumpstart its title campaign right away by winning the first two games to have a solid chance for the title. If Ginebra manages to keep the game and the series close, it would be very dangerous for the Tropang Texters.

What TnT wants to do is to keep the crowd from getting involved in the game. The difference between the Ginebra of today with its predecessor is that this BGK team is more technically polished, more fundamentally sound, has better players and are more disciplined. Hence, when the crowd gets on their feet and provides the sixth man support that Kings will always have, their chances of victory are much better compared to the Jawo ragtag teams.

Which is why beating BGK today is much more difficult compared to the past. The hardest thing to do in the PBA today is to beat Ginebra in a Finals series when more than 20,000 fans are rooting against you. For TnT to win, they need to flex their muscle early, get a big lead from the getgo, silence the crowd, and be prepared for an expected BGK rally. They need to do this consecutively though, at least 2 games, to win the title. If they allow BGK to keep the series close, I'd favor a Ginebra championship. A short series though would favor TnT more.

kikomatsing
04-26-2011, 05:58 AM
this is short series indeed...

bka 4-1 BGK o 4-2 BGK ito!


"im a human crystal ball"

SG 3000
04-26-2011, 06:55 PM
this is short series indeed...

bka 4-1 BGK o 4-2 BGK ito!


"im a human crystal ball"

4-2 is a short series? :p

kikomatsing
04-27-2011, 01:43 AM
4-2 is a short series? :p

yes sir....

it is shorter than 4-3 dba?
therefore its "short"

angmamatayngdahilsa'yo
04-27-2011, 02:28 AM
yes sir.... it is shorter than 4-3 dba?
therefore its "short"

yo kiko, how about a deal? if ginebra loses the championship series against TnT, you stop your less-evolved macaque thinking in this forum. if TnT loses, we'll send ginebra to wuhan? :p

deal or no deal, you chimpanzee? :D

SG 3000
04-27-2011, 03:35 AM
yes sir....

it is shorter than 4-3 dba?
therefore its "short"

:rolleyes: a short series (for best of 7) refers to 4 to 5 games only.

durden_tyler
04-27-2011, 03:38 AM
:rolleyes: a short series (for best of 7) refers to 4 to 5 games only.

Agree. 4-5 is short and 6-7 is considered long. You can't question this Monkey's heart but you can question this Monkey's basketball IQ. :D

kikomatsing
04-27-2011, 06:13 AM
sir...
i dont understand and what school did you come from and what kind of MATH they taught you guys!

its plain simple...

in the best-of-7 series... which is shorter?

4-2 or 4-3?


4-2 dba?? so!. do the thinking!..
hay!!! hirap umintindi!

durden_tyler
04-27-2011, 06:26 AM
i give up. ;)

thayil
04-27-2011, 06:49 AM
sir...
i dont understand and what school did you come from and what kind of MATH they taught you guys!

its plain simple...

in the best-of-7 series... which is shorter?

4-2 or 4-3?


4-2 dba?? so!. do the thinking!..
hay!!! hirap umintindi!

amp but 4-1 is shorter!

kikomatsing
04-27-2011, 07:09 AM
amp but 4-1 is shorter!

yes sir!..
you are correct!.

but 4-0 is shortest!

but i think BGK can do this! SWEEP!


will see the game result today!.. that will dictate the series!

thayil
04-27-2011, 07:14 AM
yes sir!..
you are correct!.

but 4-0 is shortest!

but i think BGK can do this! SWEEP!


will see the game result today!.. that will dictate the series!

haha A-S-A

TnT will play with urgency noh! maybe the other way around!

neo
04-27-2011, 07:41 AM
i give up. ;)

he's funny :)

grunge_act
04-27-2011, 08:10 AM
sir...
i dont understand and what school did you come from and what kind of MATH they taught you guys!

its plain simple...

in the best-of-7 series... which is shorter?

4-2 or 4-3?


4-2 dba?? so!. do the thinking!..
hay!!! hirap umintindi!

I never thought monkeys can this be hilarious!!! :D:D:D LMAO

international88
04-27-2011, 04:21 PM
Congratulations to TNT for annihilating, embarrassing, shredding, and pudding Brgy Ginebra.

So much for the short series and Ginebra sweep.

I am happy that I was wrong with my prediction (as always)

My Game 2 Prediction

It will be a snoozefest
JC Intal will have an explosive game. Ginebra will win by a mile. Around 17 points spread. Lead will be as large as 22.

international88
04-27-2011, 04:23 PM
yes sir!..
you are correct!.

but 4-0 is shortest!

but i think BGK can do this! SWEEP!


will see the game result today!.. that will dictate the series!

The way is playing in the finals, Your team will surely become a Champion on the PBA

-D League
:p

kikomatsing
04-28-2011, 03:19 AM
bad game by ginebra...
swerte ang TNT!..

bawi nlang sa friday!...

4-2 pa din yan for BGk!...

for sure -mc47!
:)

nowitzki_21
05-01-2011, 03:41 AM
Ginebra's First Five Tonight

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5674648488_ca36cf9c98_b.jpg

:D

frenzfries
05-01-2011, 07:41 AM
I believe that TnT will get the victory over Ginebra tonight not because of bitterness but it is the undeniable REALITY that TnT is more superior in many areas. The only thing that will win it for BGK is luck :)

Gravemind
05-01-2011, 10:49 AM
Ginebra's First Five Tonight

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5674648488_ca36cf9c98_b.jpg

:D

a product of your imagination...

angmamatayngdahilsa'yo
05-01-2011, 12:43 PM
damn! it looks like kikomatsing's prediction is true!

at 2-1, TnT is doomed! the annihilating win against ginebra tonight will be the TnT's last for the series. the rest of the series will be swept by ginebra as predicted by the resident chimpanzee. it will be 4-2 for ginebra! 4-2! 4-2! :D and it will be a short series! :D

damn, king macaque is the madame auring of this forum! hail! :p

Alex07
05-01-2011, 01:14 PM
hehehe half monkey half octopus ey? I wonder what's is his insights on today's game.I'm actually more impressed on BGK tonight than TNT regardless of the outcome.they played good tonight.

acklium
05-02-2011, 05:48 AM
bad game by ginebra...
swerte ang TNT!..

bawi nlang sa friday!...

4-2 pa din yan for BGk!...

for sure -mc47!
:)

kikomatsing <<<<<<<<<<<BITTER

acklium
05-02-2011, 05:48 AM
hehehe half monkey half octopus ey? I wonder what's is his insights on today's game.I'm actually more impressed on BGK tonight than TNT regardless of the outcome.they played good tonight.

Half Monkey Half Crab :D :D :D :D

fadzki
05-02-2011, 08:18 AM
a product of your imagination...

also a product of a nice photoshop editing... well done...

Joe Yabuki
05-02-2011, 11:02 AM
Ginebra's First Five Tonight

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5674648488_ca36cf9c98_b.jpg

:D

I believe a pass first PG would be better than Rose since his play style and weaknesses are way too similar to your 2 and 3.

kikomatsing
05-02-2011, 11:07 AM
now they need to win 3 straight....
or else!....

hehehehehe!.....

neede to adjust defense!...


goodluck on wednesday!... kaya pa yan!
:)

patay-butiki
05-17-2011, 11:16 PM
hmmm.... now i know why he's called "the saint." :)

usa-pub.blogspot.com link (http://usa-pub.blogspot.com/2011/05/flight-ronald-tubids-journey.html)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2hKKFUMB0vg/TdJ5LzjRXfI/AAAAAAAAAFw/8Ezmy7JmMH0/s320/ronaldtubid.jpg
ronald "the saint" tubid

http://home.catholicweb.com/blesseddiego/images/Blspedro.JPG
st. pedro calungsod


TUESDAY, MAY 17, 2011

The Flight: Ronald Tubid's Journey
By GENESSA A. BUENAFE


Tubid (Photo by Genessa Buenafe)
The Fast, The Furious, the Fearless and the Saint

They called him so many names but it all sums up to one man. The basketball court is the battlefield he played with a keen eye and a set of skills. Anointed with the number ‘71’ in the back of his jersey shirt and a slamming ‘Barangay Ginebra Kings’ at the front, he plays the game with the zest for victory. Amidst failures and trails, he showed good character and a true sense of sportsmanship proving that beneath the name, the game and the fame, there is a true man beneath it: Ronald Gonzaga Tubid.

Spreading his wings

“It all started when Toto was a year old. His father gave him a small basketball. He learned to love it and grow with the vision of becoming a professional basketball player” laughs Lorna Tubid, Ronald’s mother. “His father, late Rogelio de la Cruz Tubid was a varsity basketball player at the University of San Agustin in the 70’s. I never thought that Ronald would follow his footsteps.”



It always has been - EVERYTHING STARTS IN THE FAMILY, even dreams and in Ronald’s case he never neglected the calling which was passed on so many years before from his father’s strong arms into his small delicate hands. Lorna adds “Eventhough his father wasn’t there long enough to see the man that he has become; I know Rogelio is proud of him.”

Learning to fly

“I was in Grade IV when I had my first ever real basketball game. Life was so simple back then in Iloilo. I studied at Oton Central Elementary School and Mr. Mannuelito Apuang was my first coach. I never forgot the feeling of shaking in my shoes and sometimes dropping the ball when I get too nervous. But hey I was young.” smiles Ronald Tubid. There’s a first time for everything… famous people, and novel price winners are not exempted. Learning to fly can only be gained from the gradual accumulation of experience including those unexpected bloopers, as what they are usually called.

In Ronald’s case, those tough moments didn’t give way for the worst. They gave way for so many opportunities, like playing in the Midget Basketball and the Southern Iloilo Sports Association (SISA). This time, he didn’t drop the ball whenever he was nervous.

He learned how to let fear go… into the ball, letting it fly and down it goes through the basketball ring. Then, he scores.

Soaring high

“Still, I played basketball until I reached college at the University Of The East. I even got to play in the UAAP (University Athletic Association of the Philippines).” says Tubid. The chance to fire up his dream has finally come at hand. Provided with once in a life time opportunities, his wish to become a professional basketball player has come within his reach. And, along with these opportunities was a more unexpected event.

“While playing at the amateur Philippine Basketball League, I was picked as the face of Blessed Pedro Calungsod. (laugh) He wasn’t even declared a Saint back then.” says Ronald. And then the nickname, “The Saint” was born. After all those years waiting for the right time to come, another calling knocked at his door.

Tubid was drafted by the Shell Turbo Chargers as the sixteenth overall pick in the 2003 PBA Draft and averaged 8.9 points in his rookie year. And at the midway point of the 2006-07 PBA Philippine Cup, Tubid was traded to the Barangay Ginebra Kings and was a key reliever in Ginebra's title conquest over sister team San Miguel Beer.(http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.php?title=Ronald_Tubid)

With awards like PBA Mr. Quality Minutes (2003),PBA 3-point Shootout Champion (2004), PBA Mr. Quality Minutes (2005-06), PBA co-Finals Most Valuable Player (2008) and PBA All-Defensive Team (2009). And from there Ronald etched his name on the wall of fame.

Flying back to his nest
“I always keep in touch with my family. No matter how busy I am. And I also regularly extend my regards to those people who inspired me to become who I am today, to my parents, to the friends I gained through basketball, my coaches and especially to the former mayor of Oton, Hon. Felix L. Flores.” Ronald stresses. He added that Hon. Flores gave him the biggest push when he was still starting to tread the path of his career.

“I went to Manila to audition and back to Iloilo the next day without any hope that I’ll be accepted in 2003 PBA Draft. Hon. Flores gave me the wake up call to go back” Ronald declared. He did go back and there hope crossed his way. Ronal added, “I was drafted by the Shell Turbo Chargers as the sixteenth overall pick. And from there my dream took hold of me.”

Truly, the journey away from home is as tough as leaving a part of Ronald’s self behind, the journey to his dreams made him lose more of himself and still he gained so much of the person he never knew was there.

Ronald Tubid always finds his way back to his nest, to the people who loved him, to his mother’s arms, to the boy who made his father’s dream come true and now to a man that they call, The Fast, The Furious, the Fearless and the Saint.
Copyright by USA Publications published at 9:45 PM

kikomatsing
06-07-2011, 06:52 AM
Go BGK!

:D

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06-07-2011, 06:54 AM
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sir,

i like ur signature!

wow you quiting also?scared?

GenghisKhan Tut
06-08-2011, 12:59 PM
we need a big guy in the paint.
may Big Mac fill in this void.

theImbaguy
06-08-2011, 02:13 PM
anyare?
trans:what did i missed?

generalboy
06-09-2011, 03:12 PM
http://forums.interbasket.net/f32/pba-in-dubai-2011-16975/

kikomatsing
06-22-2011, 05:28 AM
up natin toh!

Go BGK!...

lets retaliate!

angmamatayngdahilsa'yo
06-25-2011, 11:22 AM
[URL="http://usa-pub.blogspot.com/2011/05/flight-ronald-tubids-journey.html"]

it is nice to see ronald tubid without the tattoos and intimidating facial hair.:)

Beastly
10-31-2011, 01:50 PM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/the-pbaologist-commemorating-the-birth-of-barangay-ginebra

December 11, a Sunday, is the last regular playdate of the elimination round of the 2011-12 PBA Philippine Cup. The very final game of the elims pits Barangay Ginebra against defending champion Talk ‘N Text in the 6:30 p.m. second game at the SMART-Araneta Coliseum.

It will already be the second meeting in the elims between the two teams, a rematch of their coming November 6 meeting.

The date is a special one for the Ginebra franchise, but one that I’m sure that most fans aren’t familiar with.

25 years ago, Ginebra won its first PBA title in the Open Conference, the third tournament of the season. The team came from behind to beat Manila Beer, 130-120, in the fifth game of a best-of-seven title series to end what had been an 8-year title drought for the franchise.

Think Sonny Jaworski, Dondon Ampalayo, the Loyzaga brothers — Chito and Joey, Dante Gonzalgo, Leo Isaac. All demigods in Ginebra lore, were part of that team.

Think two legendary imports playing on one team– Billy Ray Bates and Michael Hackett.

I reckon that the enduring popularity of Ginebra was cemented right then and there right then and there.

The team battled back from an 18-point deficit in that game to clinch the championship. Think “Never Say Die,” and it happened that night, magnified a thousand-fold because it resulted in the team’s first championship. It’s a spirit that the team carries with it to this day.

Now, think about this: Wouldn’t it be nice if Ginebra paid tribute to that title-winning team a quarter of a century ago? The current crop of Gin Kings, for example, could suit up in retro jerseys featuring the 1986 uniform design — it’ll be up to them if they want the shorts to be as skimpy as the ones worn back then. I suppose most fans would love it — especially the females.

Ginebra management can go one step further and host a reunion for the players of the franchise’s first champion team.


Photo from the 1986-87 PBA Annual
With more than a month to go, there should be ample time to invite the Big J, as well as Billy Ray Bates, who is in town. There should also be no problems inviting players who are still in the country, which include Ampalayo, Isaac, Chito Loyzaga, Gonzalgo, Romy Mamaril, Joey Marquez (yes, THAT Joey Marquez), Mukesh Advani, Rey Perez, and Terry Saldana.

If Ginebra officials really want to go all-out, they could even invite Francis Arnaiz, Joey Loyzaga, Hackett, and assistant coach Rino Salazar to fly back to the country.

I have no idea where the likes of Rolando Buhay and Ed Ducut are right now, but I am sure the PBA knows where to get in touch with them.

Perhaps the PBA could also consider selling replicas of those retro jerseys, and donate a portion or all of the proceeds for a cause — like for Billy Mamaril’s wife, Christine, who’s still in a coma. I know I would buy a jersey, or even two.

Filipinos love to celebrate birthdays and anniversaries. So why not make an occasion of the silver anniversary of Ginebra’s first title?

That would make for an early Christmas gift for the millions of members of Barangay Ginebra.

---------------
Let's go Ginebra this AFC even we're undermanned we will not give up

ricodgame
10-31-2011, 07:33 PM
This is the team that is always saying they are undermanned but, they do not have anyone on injured list and they are saying that they are small but they do have an abundant of big man.

current roster:

Guards:
Rob Labagala 5'9
JJ Helterbrand 5'11
Mike Cortez 6'0
Mark Caguioa 6'0
Jimbo Aquino 6'1
Tubid Ronald 6'1
John Wilson 6'4

Forwards:
Willy Wilson 6'3
JC Intal 6'4
Reil Cervantes 6'4
KG Canaleta 6'5

Center:
Enrico Villanueva 6'5
Billy Mamaril 6'6
Eric Menk 6'6
Yancy De Ocampo 6'9

Beastly
11-01-2011, 04:46 AM
This is the team that is always saying they are undermanned but, they do not have anyone on injured list and they are saying that they are small but they do have an abundant of big man.

current roster:

Guards:
Rob Labagala 5'9
JJ Helterbrand 5'11
Mike Cortez 6'0
Mark Caguioa 6'0
Jimbo Aquino 6'1
Tubid Ronald 6'1
John Wilson 6'4

Forwards:
Willy Wilson 6'3
JC Intal 6'4
Reil Cervantes 6'4
KG Canaleta 6'5

Center:
Enrico Villanueva 6'5
Billy Mamaril 6'6
Eric Menk 6'6
Yancy De Ocampo 6'9

Compare that to other teams? Ill answer you the Center. EVill is a shadow of the Old Raging Bull, Mamaril is in the injured list because of his wife, when he's on the team all he do is commit foul. Eric Menk is washed up but who knows he might come back in the playoffs. Yancy De Ocampo is soft. Willy Wilson is an undersized PF, Reil Cervantes well is a rookie. Is there a dominant big man there?

SMC never prioritize our team like Coach Siot has said last Wed on post-game "We still rely on Mark and JJ, when I first coach in 04 them we rely on them, other teams have diff stars now."

04 Stars- 011 Stars

TNT- Taulava/Alapag- Alapag/Castro
Meralco(SLR)- Duremdes- Cardona
Coke(Pow)- Hatfield(?)- Gary D
PF- Alvin P.(?)- James Yap
SMB- Danny S/Danny I- Jwash/Arwind
Shopinas(Red Bull) Harp(?)- Ren Ren
Barako Bull (Air)- Vergel Meneses(?)- Willie Miller
Alaska- Arigo(?)- LA
Shell(ROS)- Tony Dlc(?)- Paul Lee/Gabe Norwood
BGK- Big 3- Big 3

As you can see TNT only retained there stars from 04 with Alapag. But rest are all different.

capitantiago
11-01-2011, 05:54 AM
Compare that to other teams? Ill answer you the Center. EVill is a shadow of the Old Raging Bull, Mamaril is in the injured list because of his wife, when he's on the team all he do is commit foul. Eric Menk is washed up but who knows he might come back in the playoffs. Yancy De Ocampo is soft. Willy Wilson is an undersized PF, Reil Cervantes well is a rookie. Is there a dominant big man there?

SMC never prioritize our team like Coach Siot has said last Wed on post-game "We still rely on Mark and JJ, when I first coach in 04 them we rely on them, other teams have diff stars now."

04 Stars- 011 Stars

TNT- Taulava/Alapag- Alapag/Castro
Meralco(SLR)- Duremdes- Cardona
Coke(Pow)- Hatfield(?)- Gary D
PF- Alvin P.(?)- James Yap
SMB- Danny S/Danny I- Jwash/Arwind
Shopinas(Red Bull) Harp(?)- Ren Ren
Barako Bull (Air)- Vergel Meneses(?)- Willie Miller
Alaska- Arigo(?)- LA
Shell(ROS)- Tony Dlc(?)- Paul Lee/Gabe Norwood
BGK- Big 3- Big 3

As you can see TNT only retained there stars from 04 with Alapag. But rest are all different.

2004? Patrimonio's final season. Meanwhile, Raymundo was the top player and James Yap was a rookie then but you know that he'd be a superstar soon.

ricodgame
11-01-2011, 06:04 AM
Compare that to other teams? Ill answer you the Center. EVill is a shadow of the Old Raging Bull, Mamaril is in the injured list because of his wife, when he's on the team all he do is commit foul. Eric Menk is washed up but who knows he might come back in the playoffs. Yancy De Ocampo is soft. Willy Wilson is an undersized PF, Reil Cervantes well is a rookie. Is there a dominant big man there?

SMC never prioritize our team like Coach Siot has said last Wed on post-game "We still rely on Mark and JJ, when I first coach in 04 them we rely on them, other teams have diff stars now."

04 Stars- 011 Stars

TNT- Taulava/Alapag- Alapag/Castro
Meralco(SLR)- Duremdes- Cardona
Coke(Pow)- Hatfield(?)- Gary D
PF- Alvin P.(?)- James Yap
SMB- Danny S/Danny I- Jwash/Arwind
Shopinas(Red Bull) Harp(?)- Ren Ren
Barako Bull (Air)- Vergel Meneses(?)- Willie Miller
Alaska- Arigo(?)- LA
Shell(ROS)- Tony Dlc(?)- Paul Lee/Gabe Norwood
BGK- Big 3- Big 3

As you can see TNT only retained there stars from 04 with Alapag. But rest are all different.

Noli Eala's Tweet:
@itsm3jonsarap let me put it this way po- Ginebra coaches do not want ORDINARY FREE AGENTS. They want MARQUEE players. That's not easy.

and compare their bigs against other teams bigs:

Alaska: Sonny Thoss, JayR Reyes, Hans Thiele, Paolo Bugia, Ariel Mepana, Sam Eman, Ervin Sotto

Barako Bull: Dorian Pena, Don Allado, Jondan Salvador, Mick Pennisi, Ken Acibar

BMEG: Rafi Reavis, Kerby Raymundo, Rico Maierhofer, Marc Pingris, Joe Devance, John Ferriols, Jerwin Gaco

Meralco: Asi Taulava, Gabby Espinas, Mark Isip, Reynel Hugnatan, Jason Ballesteros, Brian Faundo, Gilbert Bulawan

Petron: Danny Ildefonso, Jay Washington, Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Rob Reyes, Noy Baclao, Carlo Sharma

Powerade: Doug Kramer, Ricky Calimag, Romel Adducul, Alex Crisano, William Antonio

Rain Or Shine: Beau Belga, JR Quinahan, Jervy Cruz, Larry Rodriguez, Ronni Matias

Shopinas: Brian Ilad, Magi Sison, Homer Se, Mark Canlas, Elmer Espiritu, Dennis Daa

Talk and Text: Ali Peek, Kelly Williams, Ranidel De Ocampo, Japeth Aguilar, Harvey Carey, Gilber Lao

From Above List: I will rate them Ahead of Powerade, Rain Or Shine, Meralco and Shopinas when it comes to bigs.

IDK what happened to E-Vill but when he don the SMC franchise jersey his game deteriorated. (nawala ang angas)

Beastly
11-01-2011, 06:15 AM
^Why would they want ordinary free agents when they can have marquee player, I wonder what did Bmeg gave for Joe DeVance(who was supposed to be traded to BGK but Bmeg snagged him)

I would only rate our frontline ahead Powerade and ROS. Meralco have Asi, Hugnatan, Isip, Espinas and Ballesteros(who's not playing good but he's a Smart Gilas alumni )

ROS have sweet shooting big men. Beau Belga when playing good is better than any BGK big man and if you have watched last ROS/Meralco game even JR Quinahan is making three point shot. LRod and Mattias are decent. Jervy Cruz just need some confidence.

ricodgame
11-01-2011, 08:08 AM
^ that's the problem. How can they get a marquee player if they are now willing to part ways with one of their stars?

FireJaemark
11-01-2011, 03:27 PM
Just want to share an article on the birth of Barangay Ginebra. I hope this will come in fruition. :)

The PBAologist: Commemorating the birth of Barangay Ginebra
by: Fidel Mangonon III, special to InterAKTV (interaksyon.com)

December 11, a Sunday, is the last regular playdate of the elimination round of the 2011-12 PBA Philippine Cup. The very final game of the elims pits Barangay Ginebra against defending champion Talk ‘N Text in the 6:30 p.m. second game at the SMART-Araneta Coliseum.

It will already be the second meeting in the elims between the two teams, a rematch of their coming November 6 meeting.

The date is special for the Ginebra franchise, but one that I’m sure that most fans aren’t familiar with.

25 years ago, Ginebra won its first PBA title in the Open Conference, the third tournament of the season. The team came from behind to beat Manila Beer, 130-120, in the fifth game of a best-of-seven title series to end what had been an 8-year title drought for the franchise.

Think Sonny Jaworski, Dondon Ampalayo, the Loyzaga brothers — Chito and Joey, Dante Gonzalgo, Leo Isaac. All demigods in Ginebra lore, they were part of that team.

Think two legendary imports playing on one team– Billy Ray Bates and Michael Hackett.

I reckon that the enduring popularity of Ginebra was cemented right then and there.

The team battled back from an 18-point deficit in that game to clinch the championship. Think “Never Say Die,” and it happened that night, magnified a thousand-fold because it resulted in the team’s first championship. It’s a spirit that the team carries with it to this day.

Now, think about this: Wouldn’t it be nice if Ginebra paid tribute to that title-winning team a quarter of a century ago? The current crop of Gin Kings, for example, could suit up in retro jerseys featuring the 1986 uniform design — it’ll be up to them if they want the shorts to be as skimpy as the ones worn back then. I suppose most fans would love it — especially the females.

Ginebra management can go one step further and host a reunion for the players of the franchise’s first champion team.

With more than a month to go, there should be ample time to invite the Big J, as well as Billy Ray Bates, who is in town. There should also be no problems inviting players who are still in the country, which include Ampalayo, Isaac, Chito Loyzaga, Gonzalgo, Romy Mamaril, Joey Marquez (yes, THAT Joey Marquez), Mukesh Advani, Rey Perez, and Terry Saldana.

If Ginebra officials really want to go all-out, they could even invite Francis Arnaiz, Joey Loyzaga, Hackett, and assistant coach Rino Salazar to fly back to the country.

I have no idea where the likes of Rolando Buhay and Ed Ducut are right now, but I am sure the PBA knows where to get in touch with them.

Perhaps the PBA could also consider selling replicas of those retro jerseys, and donate a portion or all of the proceeds for a cause — like for Billy Mamaril’s wife, Christine, who’s still in a coma. I know I would buy a jersey, or even two.

Filipinos love to celebrate birthdays and anniversaries. So why not make an occasion of the silver anniversary of Ginebra’s first title?

That would make for an early Christmas gift for the millions of members of Barangay Ginebra.

Beastly
11-01-2011, 03:39 PM
Posted already in http://forums.interbasket.net/f32/official-brgy-ginebra-san-miguel-thread-8224/p12.html :)

potz05
11-01-2011, 09:48 PM
This is the team that is always saying they are undermanned but, they do not have anyone on injured list and they are saying that they are small but they do have an abundant of big man.

current roster:

Guards:
Rob Labagala 5'9
JJ Helterbrand 5'11
Mike Cortez 6'0
Mark Caguioa 6'0
Jimbo Aquino 6'1
Tubid Ronald 6'1
John Wilson 6'4

Forwards:
Willy Wilson 6'3
JC Intal 6'4
Reil Cervantes 6'4
KG Canaleta 6'5

Center:
Enrico Villanueva 6'5
Billy Mamaril 6'6
Eric Menk 6'6
Yancy De Ocampo 6'9

Sir Rico is John Wilson's height really 6"4'?

On-topic.

Yeah I think BGk needs to overhaul. But I still highly doubt that they'll give their Old-big-three just to have a new marquee player unless they'll trade E-Vill-Tubid-Intal-Canaleta to a team willing to give up their own marquee players.

But we can never can tell. Look at what just happened to SMB/Petron as they traded three IMPORTANT players (Seigle-Pena-DH) just to get serviceable rooks.

Jay P. Mercado
11-02-2011, 01:56 AM
Just want to share an article on the birth of Barangay Ginebra. I hope this will come in fruition. :)

The PBAologist: Commemorating the birth of Barangay Ginebra
by: Fidel Mangonon III, special to InterAKTV (interaksyon.com)

December 11, a Sunday, is the last regular playdate of the elimination round of the 2011-12 PBA Philippine Cup. The very final game of the elims pits Barangay Ginebra against defending champion Talk ‘N Text in the 6:30 p.m. second game at the SMART-Araneta Coliseum.

It will already be the second meeting in the elims between the two teams, a rematch of their coming November 6 meeting.

The date is special for the Ginebra franchise, but one that I’m sure that most fans aren’t familiar with.

25 years ago, Ginebra won its first PBA title in the Open Conference, the third tournament of the season. The team came from behind to beat Manila Beer, 130-120, in the fifth game of a best-of-seven title series to end what had been an 8-year title drought for the franchise.

Think Sonny Jaworski, Dondon Ampalayo, the Loyzaga brothers — Chito and Joey, Dante Gonzalgo, Leo Isaac. All demigods in Ginebra lore, they were part of that team.

Think two legendary imports playing on one team– Billy Ray Bates and Michael Hackett.

I reckon that the enduring popularity of Ginebra was cemented right then and there.

The team battled back from an 18-point deficit in that game to clinch the championship. Think “Never Say Die,” and it happened that night, magnified a thousand-fold because it resulted in the team’s first championship. It’s a spirit that the team carries with it to this day.

Now, think about this: Wouldn’t it be nice if Ginebra paid tribute to that title-winning team a quarter of a century ago? The current crop of Gin Kings, for example, could suit up in retro jerseys featuring the 1986 uniform design — it’ll be up to them if they want the shorts to be as skimpy as the ones worn back then. I suppose most fans would love it — especially the females.

Ginebra management can go one step further and host a reunion for the players of the franchise’s first champion team.

With more than a month to go, there should be ample time to invite the Big J, as well as Billy Ray Bates, who is in town. There should also be no problems inviting players who are still in the country, which include Ampalayo, Isaac, Chito Loyzaga, Gonzalgo, Romy Mamaril, Joey Marquez (yes, THAT Joey Marquez), Mukesh Advani, Rey Perez, and Terry Saldana.

If Ginebra officials really want to go all-out, they could even invite Francis Arnaiz, Joey Loyzaga, Hackett, and assistant coach Rino Salazar to fly back to the country.

I have no idea where the likes of Rolando Buhay and Ed Ducut are right now, but I am sure the PBA knows where to get in touch with them.

Perhaps the PBA could also consider selling replicas of those retro jerseys, and donate a portion or all of the proceeds for a cause — like for Billy Mamaril’s wife, Christine, who’s still in a coma. I know I would buy a jersey, or even two.

Filipinos love to celebrate birthdays and anniversaries. So why not make an occasion of the silver anniversary of Ginebra’s first title?

That would make for an early Christmas gift for the millions of members of Barangay Ginebra.

Fidel Mangonon's article came out a bit earlier than expected but it's all for good. If Barangay Ginebra does intend to commemorate the franchise's first championship, then December 11, 2011 would be the perfect day for them to relive the initial glory of the team under then Coach Robert Jaworski.

I'm a little disappointed though with how the story line was written. I felt Mangonon, considered as the league's resident historian and statistician, would have given better justice to this scintillating Ginebra feat of 1986 rather than merely focusing on the last game per se. Many fans, Ginebra followers or otherwise, would have been enamored more if Mangonon focused on the developments that led to this championship. For one, in Game 1, Billy Ray Bates scored a buzzer-beating slam dunk that broke the deadlock and catapulted Ginebra to an impressive come-from-behind two point win, 135-133. Try to recall all buzzer-beaters in PBA history and I'm sure there were a lot - practically everything was impressive. But what made this shot more spectacular, in my opinion, was the value of the game (Game 1 of the Finals) and how it was done (Bates' vicious slam, thereby posterizing Abet Guidaben, with no time remaining). I've always felt that this may be hallmarked as one of Billy Ray's greatest games in his entire career (NBA, PBA or otherwise) and I'm appalled that Mangonon didn't make mention of this.

Another impressive feat in this series was Robert Jaworski's record-breaking 58 minutes played in Game 4 of this series. With Ginebra up, 2-1 in the series, Jaworski decided to play the entire game that went beyond regulation and decided only after 2 overtime periods. Ginebra won this game, 145-135. At 40 years old to play 58 minutes of professional basketball, you can only describe this as phenomenal.

More than anything, Mangonon's focus on the birth of the Ginebra never-say-die spirit didn't actually measure up. He forgot to mention that in Games 1 and 2, Ginebra had to come back from huge deficits of 15 and 19 points at the end of the 3rd quarter in a similar scenario from what happened in the final game. Ginebra won Game 1 (from the Bates' slam) but lost in Game 2, 121-111 after the Brewmasters was able to ride the vaunted Ginebra onslaught.

Had Mangonon opted to use the entire series as the basis for Ginebra's trademark of "never-say-die," fans would have realized what kind of spirit Robert Jaworski brought to the team when he was coaching the franchise. Instead, he opted for only the final game, where, while it wasn't bad, didn't give the true picture of how remarkable the feat was 25 years ago. Similarly, while Mangonon may have also inferred that this championship was the birth of the never-say-die spirit of the team, I would cite the 1985 game against NCC when Jaworski came back from the hospital to have his lips stitched up as arguably the real birth of the said never-say-die spirit.

Nonetheless, Mangonon's emphasis with this article is to commemorate the 25th anniversary of Ginebra's title. And what better way to do so by having the present Ginebra team wear retro jerseys of the 1986 team - something that should be looked forward to by all PBA fans. For this, we hope the BGK management would grant this wish not just for the fans' sake but for giving historical value to the team's accomplishments.

FireJaemark
11-06-2011, 01:34 PM
Posted already in http://forums.interbasket.net/f32/official-brgy-ginebra-san-miguel-thread-8224/p12.html :)
sorry for the late reply, but thanks for merging the thread. :)

FireJaemark
11-06-2011, 01:39 PM
Fidel Mangonon's article came out a bit earlier than expected but it's all for good. If Barangay Ginebra does intend to commemorate the franchise's first championship, then December 11, 2011 would be the perfect day for them to relive the initial glory of the team under then Coach Robert Jaworski.

I'm a little disappointed though with how the story line was written. I felt Mangonon, considered as the league's resident historian and statistician, would have given better justice to this scintillating Ginebra feat of 1986 rather than merely focusing on the last game per se. Many fans, Ginebra followers or otherwise, would have been enamored more if Mangonon focused on the developments that led to this championship. For one, in Game 1, Billy Ray Bates scored a buzzer-beating slam dunk that broke the deadlock and catapulted Ginebra to an impressive come-from-behind two point win, 135-133. Try to recall all buzzer-beaters in PBA history and I'm sure there were a lot - practically everything was impressive. But what made this shot more spectacular, in my opinion, was the value of the game (Game 1 of the Finals) and how it was done (Bates' vicious slam, thereby posterizing Abet Guidaben, with no time remaining). I've always felt that this may be hallmarked as one of Billy Ray's greatest games in his entire career (NBA, PBA or otherwise) and I'm appalled that Mangonon didn't make mention of this.

Another impressive feat in this series was Robert Jaworski's record-breaking 58 minutes played in Game 4 of this series. With Ginebra up, 2-1 in the series, Jaworski decided to play the entire game that went beyond regulation and decided only after 2 overtime periods. Ginebra won this game, 145-135. At 40 years old to play 58 minutes of professional basketball, you can only describe this as phenomenal.

More than anything, Mangonon's focus on the birth of the Ginebra never-say-die spirit didn't actually measure up. He forgot to mention that in Games 1 and 2, Ginebra had to come back from huge deficits of 15 and 19 points at the end of the 3rd quarter in a similar scenario from what happened in the final game. Ginebra won Game 1 (from the Bates' slam) but lost in Game 2, 121-111 after the Brewmasters was able to ride the vaunted Ginebra onslaught.

Had Mangonon opted to use the entire series as the basis for Ginebra's trademark of "never-say-die," fans would have realized what kind of spirit Robert Jaworski brought to the team when he was coaching the franchise. Instead, he opted for only the final game, where, while it wasn't bad, didn't give the true picture of how remarkable the feat was 25 years ago. Similarly, while Mangonon may have also inferred that this championship was the birth of the never-say-die spirit of the team, I would cite the 1985 game against NCC when Jaworski came back from the hospital to have his lips stitched up as arguably the real birth of the said never-say-die spirit.

Nonetheless, Mangonon's emphasis with this article is to commemorate the 25th anniversary of Ginebra's title. And what better way to do so by having the present Ginebra team wear retro jerseys of the 1986 team - something that should be looked forward to by all PBA fans. For this, we hope the BGK management would grant this wish not just for the fans' sake but for giving historical value to the team's accomplishments.

Thank you for posting your thoughts, Jay. But I think the proposed Ginebra Tribute will not push through. The idea didn't appeal to the PBA or to the SMC group.

Beastly
11-06-2011, 01:49 PM
Sir Rico is John Wilson's height really 6"4'?

On-topic.

Yeah I think BGk needs to overhaul. But I still highly doubt that they'll give their Old-big-three just to have a new marquee player unless they'll trade E-Vill-Tubid-Intal-Canaleta to a team willing to give up their own marquee players.

But we can never can tell. Look at what just happened to SMB/Petron as they traded three IMPORTANT players (Seigle-Pena-DH) just to get serviceable rooks.

John Wilson is 6''2
and we f--king need a big man... and a better coach.

ricodgame
11-07-2011, 09:40 AM
sorry for the wrong info Potz, just got it from online websites.. :)

anyway, beastly what can you say about the comments made by Caguioa and the counter statement by Coach Jong?

Beastly
11-07-2011, 10:41 AM
I agree with MC47. It's not like his performance dipped he still can carry the team but an immediate need for a big man is really a must. But MC47 is the runner up for MVP(and arguably should have win if they won the 2nd conf), so playing 12 minutes(against Meralco scoring 10) and 19 minutes(scoring 14???).

Maybe MC47 as playing coach :p

Let's face it my fave team is in turmoil

Coke_Hero
11-07-2011, 05:15 PM
Snow Badua's recent interview with Mark highlighted his (Caguioa's) displeasure of the way Ginebra's Coaching Staff has been working. I guess it was a really bad decision to have Siot Tanquincen back at the helm but Coach Jong is pretty much poised to be La Salle's coach in like 3-4 years time. So yeah, can't TOTALLY blame the management there

Beastly
11-08-2011, 05:53 AM
JC Intal on MC's comment:

RT: @JCINTAL6 sobrang vocal lang talaga siya. competitive talaga yung tao.

mon23
11-08-2011, 08:03 AM
Just want to share an article on the birth of Barangay Ginebra. I hope this will come in fruition. :)

The PBAologist: Commemorating the birth of Barangay Ginebra
by: Fidel Mangonon III, special to InterAKTV (interaksyon.com)

December 11, a Sunday, is the last regular playdate of the elimination round of the 2011-12 PBA Philippine Cup. The very final game of the elims pits Barangay Ginebra against defending champion Talk ‘N Text in the 6:30 p.m. second game at the SMART-Araneta Coliseum.

It will already be the second meeting in the elims between the two teams, a rematch of their coming November 6 meeting.

The date is special for the Ginebra franchise, but one that I’m sure that most fans aren’t familiar with.

25 years ago, Ginebra won its first PBA title in the Open Conference, the third tournament of the season. The team came from behind to beat Manila Beer, 130-120, in the fifth game of a best-of-seven title series to end what had been an 8-year title drought for the franchise.

Think Sonny Jaworski, Dondon Ampalayo, the Loyzaga brothers — Chito and Joey, Dante Gonzalgo, Leo Isaac. All demigods in Ginebra lore, they were part of that team.

Think two legendary imports playing on one team– Billy Ray Bates and Michael Hackett.

I reckon that the enduring popularity of Ginebra was cemented right then and there.

The team battled back from an 18-point deficit in that game to clinch the championship. Think “Never Say Die,” and it happened that night, magnified a thousand-fold because it resulted in the team’s first championship. It’s a spirit that the team carries with it to this day.

Now, think about this: Wouldn’t it be nice if Ginebra paid tribute to that title-winning team a quarter of a century ago? The current crop of Gin Kings, for example, could suit up in retro jerseys featuring the 1986 uniform design — it’ll be up to them if they want the shorts to be as skimpy as the ones worn back then. I suppose most fans would love it — especially the females.

Ginebra management can go one step further and host a reunion for the players of the franchise’s first champion team.

With more than a month to go, there should be ample time to invite the Big J, as well as Billy Ray Bates, who is in town. There should also be no problems inviting players who are still in the country, which include Ampalayo, Isaac, Chito Loyzaga, Gonzalgo, Romy Mamaril, Joey Marquez (yes, THAT Joey Marquez), Mukesh Advani, Rey Perez, and Terry Saldana.

If Ginebra officials really want to go all-out, they could even invite Francis Arnaiz, Joey Loyzaga, Hackett, and assistant coach Rino Salazar to fly back to the country.

I have no idea where the likes of Rolando Buhay and Ed Ducut are right now, but I am sure the PBA knows where to get in touch with them.

Perhaps the PBA could also consider selling replicas of those retro jerseys, and donate a portion or all of the proceeds for a cause — like for Billy Mamaril’s wife, Christine, who’s still in a coma. I know I would buy a jersey, or even two.

Filipinos love to celebrate birthdays and anniversaries. So why not make an occasion of the silver anniversary of Ginebra’s first title?

That would make for an early Christmas gift for the millions of members of Barangay Ginebra.

I post a comment on another site about the wrong story by Fidel Mangonon referring to the deciding clincher that says Ginebra came back from 18 points down to beat Manila Beer, I think he's referring to the second championship of Ginebra (as Anejo) that rally back to beat Purefoods in OT two years later during the 1988 All Filipino Conference.

For the record, the quarterscores of Ginebra' 130-120 win over Manila Beer in Game 5, December 11, 1986 says it all, 28-33, 63-54, 96-90, 130-120. Hope he could correct it for the benefit of the younger PBA fans.

MR. FAST
12-12-2011, 05:58 AM
3628

Quarter-Finals Game 1: Rain or Shine vs. Brgy. Ginebra | December 16, 2011 | 7:30PM | Smart Araneta Coliseum

durden_tyler
12-12-2011, 06:21 AM
3628

Quarter-Finals Game 1: Rain or Shine vs. Brgy. Ginebra | December 16, 2011 | 7:30PM | Smart Araneta Coliseum

Hmmm. Why make an own thread this late when you know their campaign is going to end during the quarterfinals? :D (Sayang lang ng effort mo hanggang dito na lang Gins. :D)

Kidding. A bit of trash talk won't hurt, eh? ;)

MR. FAST
12-12-2011, 06:25 AM
NoliEala Noli Eala
No po. 2nd conf pa. “@eGarski3: @NoliEala Sir kasali ba si h-bomb sa final line up this playoff?”

MR. FAST
12-13-2011, 12:33 AM
MIKE Cortez is on a roll and so is Barangay Ginebra.

The 2003 top draft pick continued to crank up his all-around game, not only helping the Kings stretch their winning streak to five but also earning for himself the Accel-PBA Player of the Week honors for the period Dec. 5 to 11.

MR. FAST
12-13-2011, 05:57 AM
Ginebra christmas party

Great sambokojin christmas party lunch, nomnomnom

(via @ricomaierhofer)

MR. FAST
12-14-2011, 01:42 AM
Yes Erik is ready and inspired. “@renchantan: @NoliEala Can we expect Menk to play? He's usually effective come playoff time.” noli eala

MR. FAST
12-14-2011, 04:23 AM
snow badua
JAYJAY HELTEBRAND doing well in second day of practice after almost 3 weeks of lay-off.