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SkyWalker
06-06-2007, 04:49 PM
We’ll go to Beijing or die trying – Chot
By Nelson Beltran
Thursday, June 7, 2007

It will be as difficult as scaling the Great Wall.

The Philippine team found its awesome task of getting into the Olympics again further compounded by drawing the toughest group in the 24th FIBA-Asian championship in Tokushima, Japan from July 28 to Aug. 5.

The Nationals have found themselves in a formidable company in the 16-team Asian Olympic qualifier with defending champion China and powerhouse challengers Iran and Jordan in the group.

“Unfortunately, we’re in the Group of Death,” said RP team coach Chot Reyes upon learning of the draw held in Tokushima yesterday.

“(The result) couldn’t have been worst. China and Iran are the biggest teams in terms of height and they’re tough. Jordan won’t be easy,” Reyes added of the RP team’s Group A.

Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Japan make up Group B; Qatar, India, Kazakhstan and Indonesia Group C and South Korea, Hong Kong, Syria and Chinese Taipei Group D.

Reyes said it could be a lot easier making the quarterfinals had they been bracketed in Group B or Group C.

“You work so hard to prepare only to leave your fate to the luck of the draw. However, this team and this country have come too far to be denied. It is not our style to dwell on negatives,” said Reyes.

“Our focus now is how to beat Iran and Jordan. China will take care of itself. We will go to Beijing or we will die trying,” Reyes added.

One thing going for RP is the fact that Reyes and his staff have scouted Iran and Jordan, third and fourth placers, respectively, in the Doha Asian Games.

“We’re familiar with those teams. We know that Jordan has a naturalized players in Raheim White, a touring pro who used to play as import in the Jordanian league,” said Reyes.

Incidentally, the Philippines suffered a 47-63 defeat in a three-quarter tune-up game with Iran during the rest day in the recent FIBA-Asia Champions Cup in Tehran, Iran. The Iran team features three centers standing at least 6-foot-11.

“Another good thing with this draw is the possibility of lighter assignments in the quarterfinals. The problem is how to get out of the group games,” said Reyes.

But Reyes stressed they will do their best to achieve their goal of making it to the 2008 Olympics in Beijing.

BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio attended the draw supervised by FIBA Asia first deputy secretary general Khajirian Hagop of Lebanon.

“The Philippines was drawn second to last. The draw was fair with media coverage,” said Gregorio in a text message.

source: philstar.com


man,its about time we kick some ass!

spreekanick
06-06-2007, 04:55 PM
I pretty like the draw..againts China..I've been waiting for this day a long time..I think we can beat them all..We got a lot of firepower in our team..It's time for ritualo to shine..he's our secret weapon.. :)

ctongco
06-06-2007, 04:58 PM
“You work so hard to prepare only to leave your fate to the luck of the draw. However, this team and this country have come too far to be denied. It is not our style to dwell on negatives,” said Reyes.

“Our focus now is how to beat Iran and Jordan. China will take care of itself. We will go to Beijing or we will die trying,” Reyes added.



Now that's the attitued I want for our NT.

ctongco
06-06-2007, 05:00 PM
I pretty like the draw..againts China..I've been waiting for this day a long time..I think we can beat them all..We got a lot of firepower in our team..It's time for ritualo to shine..he's our secret weapon.. :)


I would not want only Ritualo to shine but our entire team. Good luck to Team Pilipinas!

jrb0yd
06-06-2007, 06:15 PM
i like the the attitude of chot... that's what we need... and as far as our grouping, i consider it more as a challenge... since our grouping is really tough then it will motivate more our team to play their best... unlike if we are group in a very poor group, we might be too overconfident and lose our focus comes the quarterfinals... IF WE WANT TO BE THE BEST WE GOT TO BEAT THE BEST... that's the way to go... GO PILIPINAS!!!

Project888
06-06-2007, 07:00 PM
well, i hope mark starts to spark and danny to explode in japan! dyan pa nman si jong and tim! WHOOO! magaling ba mag coach si coach bingky favis?
for all the teams who will play in the fiba asia championship, IF U WANT SOME COME GET SOME!! Mga kids, magdasal kyo na manalo sana yng rp team! PLSS!
we have to believe in them! at sa mga pinoy sa japan, magsupport nman kyo!! magdala rin ng bandila ng pinas! WHOOO! sana nman gaganda na ang laro ni raniel at kerby! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Project888
06-06-2007, 07:28 PM
puro salita si chot! ano ba yan! ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!! puro salita wla nman nangyayari sa RP TEAM!
4th place in asia club championships
lamang ang thailand sa pinas nung first q. sa last SEABA championships!!
i still believe in him nman, 3 time coach of the yr.,i think

protossdomain
06-06-2007, 07:30 PM
All I have to say is... LET'S GET IT ON!!!

lornblade
06-06-2007, 07:36 PM
Basta 100% na sila pagdating nila sa Japan, I believe malaki chance natin :)

Phantim3dx
06-06-2007, 08:10 PM
what pathetic words...im in beijing, i didn't die trying. sure almost everyday my mind is numb or I have a slight headache from trying to learn this language, not to mention the noisy fuckers in my class. if i can make it here, im sure the rp squad can...with a lot of luck and bribes of course

ctongco
06-06-2007, 10:14 PM
what pathetic words...im in beijing, i didn't die trying. sure almost everyday my mind is numb or I have a slight headache from trying to learn this language, not to mention the noisy fuckers in my class. if i can make it here, im sure the rp squad can...with a lot of luck and bribes of course


It's more than obvious that Coach Chot Reyes meant qualifying for the Olympics.

maxpayne
06-06-2007, 11:15 PM
:confused:
I pretty like the draw..againts China..I've been waiting for this day a long time..I think we can beat them all..We got a lot of firepower in our team..It's time for ritualo to shine..he's our secret weapon.. :)
!*&!!!!! WHAT? you've just revealed a secret if it's a secret mate.:confused:

rensquared
06-06-2007, 11:37 PM
Best of Luck to Team Pilipinas. GOD SPEED!!!

lornblade
06-06-2007, 11:42 PM
:confused:
!*&!!!!! WHAT? you've just revealed a secret if it's a secret mate.:confused:

:D :D :D :D :D

rensquared
06-06-2007, 11:47 PM
:confused:
!*&!!!!! WHAT? you've just revealed a secret if it's a secret mate.:confused:

Good Point matie. Harrr... Savvy

pilipinas02
06-07-2007, 01:38 AM
Take 'em out, take 'em down
One by one, no falter
Time has come, the secret's out take 'em down
No falter
No falter
No falter
These are desperate times...
-------Wolfgang

This is Team Pilipinas' Soundtrack....hehehehe

jason_28c
06-07-2007, 02:53 AM
Here is the tournaments and training camps' schedule for the Jordan National Team for men for the upcoming days:

15 - 29 April ------> Two daily training sessions (Amman, Jordan)
30 April - 13 May --> Training Camp (Athens, Greece)
1 - 5 June ---------> WABA championship for NT's (Damascus, Syria)
2 - 10 July --------> Williams Jones Cup (Taiwan)
11 - 27 July -------> Training camp in one of the countries in Fareast (Not decided yet, Probably China)
28 July - 5 August -> 24th FIBA Asia Men Championship (Tokushima,Japan)

* NT's head coach portuguese Mario Palma decided not to play under the name of Arena Amman Club in Asian Clubs Championship which will be held in Tehran, Iran (12-20 May) as it was supposed to be before.
* Jordanian Basketball Federation named Arena Amman to play in Asian Clubs Championship and Orthodox for Arab Clubs Championship (Jeddah, Saudi Arabia 10-20 May) without their NT players with possibility of getting some players from other local clubs on loan.

sickcurtain_16
06-07-2007, 04:32 AM
Let's just hope for the best for our team. If we can't get out of this bracket, then it means, we really don't have what it takes YET to be called a powerhouse in Asia. So if we can get it through the quarterfinals, then it will be better. :)

princejunar
06-07-2007, 04:33 AM
Go RP Team!
I think if RP beat the 3 teams in their group, im very sure other teams will feared the RP team. Go RP team let's show them that filipinos are one of best in Asia.;)

kalamity131
06-07-2007, 04:47 AM
GO PILIPINAS!!!! MALALAKI LANG MGA YAN, IPAKITA NIYO HUSAY NG PINOY!!!

(Translated: Go Philippines!!!! The other teams in our group is tall but show them the meaning of skill!!!)

jason_28c
06-07-2007, 04:50 AM
we can test the national team of iran and jordan in the coming jones cup in taipei.. in that tournament we can gauge our NT if we have the chance to beat Iran and Jordan.............

jason_28c
06-07-2007, 04:52 AM
hey kalamity131, dont you forget that Iran and Jordan placed 3rd and 4th in the last asian games.. they are strong teams... dont be overconfident.............. Iran beat Korea in the last asian games.... Jordan defeated Iran in the last asian games also in the preliminary round but Iran beat Jordan for the 3rd place finish

donmar
06-07-2007, 05:23 AM
I think we got a chance against Iran and especially Jordan... I don't think these teams would ever make it to the top 5 in the 2006 Asian Games if the Philippines was there... about China... its the "B" team who beat the "A" team... so I don't think we can beat them... but with faith and courage you'll never know we'll top group A...

Go Team Pilipinas!!!...

About the coaches... we already have Chot Reyes as the Head Coach... we don't need Tim Cone or Jong Uichico... we need a defensive specialist coach, a rebounding specialist coach, a shooting specialist coach, and so on... not three head coaches!!!

exballer96
06-07-2007, 05:28 AM
i've been lurking around these boards for awhile and now i'm finally writing to share my two cents...

as optimistic as i want to be, i can't help but be realistic... the recent performance of team philippines at competitive tournaments leaves little to be desired. yes, we have a rich basketball history, but so do the boston celtics and look where they are now? rick pitino once told his team that 'larry bird isn't walking through that door.' sorry guys, 'carlos loyzaga and allan caidic are not walking through that door.' even if they did, they'd be hard pressed to compete against the superstars from other countries. our current crop of players are fantastic at the local and regional (southeast asia) level, but we've fallen behind our opponents at the world stage.

our basketball culture leads us to believe that we are world-beaters with nothing else to prove--whether it be at the UAAP, PBL, and PBA levels. so we send second-stringers to small tournaments where we are almost always guaranteed of victory so that we can pat ourselves in the back. meanwhile when bigger tournaments come around and we leave empty handed, we spend our time making excuses rather than fixing mistakes.

we have a rich basketball history, but when it comes to today, there is much work to be done before we can start bashing other countries on these forums. how can we talk the talk when our team can barely walk the walk? our best players are treated like rock stars, but while the pba is an entertaining league, the level of play is nowhere near where we like to think it is. until we admit to that, we will have a difficult time improving. we can't blame referees or imports for losses and we certainly can't take pride in beating minnows like singapore, thailand, malaysia, and indonesia--that only makes us big fish in a small pond.

based on team's play so far, i wouldn't be surprised if we finished last in our group at the fiba asia championships. if that were to happen, i'd be as disappointed as the next guy, but maybe--just maybe it would be a blessing in disguise. we can't keep shutting down our basketball program only to revive it 6 months before a major competition. we need the international exposure that we're getting now--even if it means losing every game we play.

while our team might not make it to Beijing in 2008, i certainly hope that our players and our program don't die trying--philippine basketball does not have to end with the fiba asia championships.

jason_28c
06-07-2007, 05:29 AM
ang Jordan tingin ko kaya pang talunin pero ang IRAN tingin ko even lang or tatalunin ang NT natin, malakas ang Iran ngayon.

jason_28c
06-07-2007, 05:31 AM
Well said exballer96..........................

donmar
06-07-2007, 06:37 AM
I think Filipinos shouldn't expect that the national team will make it through... if the country fail to qualify to the Olympics... then we have to build up for 2010 FIBA World Championship and the 2012 Olympic Games... If we loss... it doesn't matter... we've just comeback from a suspension and haven't play in international arena for a long time... don't blame the PBA... don't blame the players and the coaches... and please don't compare the strength of those teams in the FIBA Asia Champions Cup with those in the FIBA Asia Championship... Champions Cup is for clubs while the big one is for national team... it doesn't matter if the San Miguel Philippines (aka national team) got wasted in Champions Cup but the Asian Championship is different...

I still believe the team can make it!... maybe finish at least earning a slot in the Olympic Qualifying tournament (second chance tournament)...

VII
06-07-2007, 08:51 AM
with all the hard work theyve done in the past couple of months since lifting the suspension
its might come undone by a simple lottery...
im finding it hard to see any positive sign in the current situation the team is in...

ok so we got suspended...so what?
lebanon is always surrounded by war...
iran doesnt train their NT fulltime and still kick our ass in 3 quarters of practice game...PRACTICE GAME!!!??
they have naturalise players...well so do we..everyone does...

its sad to see that everyone caught up with us...
we are not a powerhouse anymore...

i believe the pba is a great league...and its full of all star in their own rights...
but so does every country in this tournament...

i used to believe in the PBA when they invaded an international tournament for the first time...only to realise that we are not the best team after all...

if we lose...god forbid it!!
i would like to see the national team build up from where they started..
i agree with the other guy here..this NT should build up and not stop and assemble everyone again after 6 months...
we are not a powerhouse anymore..

your under an illusion if you think otherwise...

but still believe we can cause a ruckus in japan...
we can make them realise that we are back in force (provided those dickheads in SBP-BAP...ESPECIALLY THOSE IN BAP!!!!) to get their act together...
they put the whole basketball program in hostage!! those wankers!!!!!!!!

but despite my fear...ill be supporting the team...
so pray to god the Chinese center break his ankle...
the Jordanians coach got sick or the Iranian got lost on their way to the stadium in japan...

divine intervention so to speak...=)

ctongco
06-07-2007, 08:59 AM
they have naturalise players...well so do we..everyone does...


We do not have any naturalized player in our National Team. We don't even have a Naturalized player in the PBA playing as a local.



but despite my fear...ill be supporting the team...
so pray to god the Chinese center break his ankle...
the Jordanians coach got sick or the Iranian got lost on their way to the stadium in japan...


Well, I hope that our NT and out opponents show full force. So that there will be no excuses after the games from either side. If we lose, then we should continue with the Training Pool that Coach Chot started. Still, I'm very optimistic of the outcome of FIBA-Asia Championship.

zuma169
06-07-2007, 09:25 AM
guys, we have to put everything into perspective.. first of, we are not doomed.. the thing is all the teams in this bracket or group are almost equal. all of the teams have a chance to win against each other.. it's not like we would definitely lose to them automatically.. of course, i have fear.. fear of uncertainty that we MIGHT lose.. but we MIGHT win as well, even sweep the group if we play well and consistent.. but no doubt i have fear in me, but hope as well..

that is why let us see everything come the tournament itself.. coach chot reyes is a master of adjustments.. coaches and players who have gone against our team have commented that about our coach.. having that in mind, it is a good thing that we will face these teams before the tournament to gauge everything (Jones Cup and the Manila Invitationals).. so that in all eventuality, we still have the time to adjust our plays or strengths..

All in all, i am still confident that our team will do well.. because i believe that our team loves to play together and they have the PASSION and HEART to win.. all of our pplayers have the winning passion and attitude.. well that does not assure us of winning all the time but that is what is the most admirable thing in an athlete, the will to win no matter what..

Gloria Team Pilipinas!

apiSigbinz
06-07-2007, 09:52 AM
I like Coach Chot battle cry, "We'll Go to Beijing or Die Trying!!!" Very inspiring and hair raising statement. But can we realistically?

I believe we have hope for now. Based on our game in Tehran, we beat Lebanon, the second best in Asia today and we beat them even they have their two imports. One import can do so much damage as we've seen in PBA tourney where our nationals were clobbered by local PBA teams with two imports. And to think that it is only their first tournament since the RP5 resume their trainings.

Phantim3dx
06-07-2007, 10:11 AM
It's more than obvious that Coach Chot Reyes meant qualifying for the Olympics.


i know, i was just trying to be sarcastic, and see if any of the newbie trolls would bite on it :o , im surprised you did however hehe.

Saskibaloia
06-07-2007, 12:09 PM
IF WE WANT TO BE THE BEST WE GOT TO BEAT THE BEST... that's the way to go... GO PILIPINAS!!!

That´s right jrb0yd ... just like the European teams, they faced the so called Dream Teams and now they themselves know how to challenge Team USA.

brownwarrior
06-07-2007, 01:25 PM
I cannot believe all the negativity I'm reading. But some of the posts are right, we must try our best in this tournament and if we don't succeed, don't make any excuses but instead strive harder for the future.:)

In the end, it's just a game guys.;)

ctongco
06-07-2007, 01:52 PM
i know, i was just trying to be sarcastic, and see if any of the newbie trolls would bite on it :o , im surprised you did however hehe.

Nyahaha. :)

karim
06-07-2007, 02:01 PM
I like Coach Chot battle cry, "We'll Go to Beijing or Die Trying!!!" Very inspiring and hair raising statement. But can we realistically?

I believe we have hope for now. Based on our game in Tehran, we beat Lebanon, the second best in Asia today and we beat them even they have their two imports. One import can do so much damage as we've seen in PBA tourney where our nationals were clobbered by local PBA teams with two imports. And to think that it is only their first tournament since the RP5 resume their trainings.

yeah u beat blue stars , which is the 2nd best team in lebanon , not the best(riyadi) and they had 2 really average imports , not to mention Lebanon NT is much stronger than blue stars .....we have beshara,vogel,ali mahmoud,ali f,omar and sabah are all not in blue stars...the only good players at blue stars were fadi,rony and roy but roy didnt play , i dont really no y.........but as i said philippines play good against leb and lose to almost every1 else i dont really no y but i dont c them winning any game next month....Jordan,Iran and China are probably the tallest 3 teams in the tournament and as we saw in tehran philippines get demolished against taller team(saba,jalaa,rayan,even the kazakhi team)..........

SkyWalker
06-07-2007, 02:02 PM
what pathetic words...im in beijing, i didn't die trying. sure almost everyday my mind is numb or I have a slight headache from trying to learn this language, not to mention the noisy fuckers in my class. if i can make it here, im sure the rp squad can...with a lot of luck and bribes of course

lolz..:D me too, anytime i can go to beijing..:D

but chot means qualifying.. playing against all odds. playing against tougher teams. playing with a lot of pressure, considering, that all filipinos are expecting that'll qualify for the olympics. :)

onono1
06-07-2007, 02:34 PM
Our national squad face an awesome challenge with china at the bracket A in the so called group of death. How will they be able to pass their mission with the PBA style of playing still in our team pilipinas system (if you watched ASEAN Tournament in thailand the way our pros played as a team), our lack of height and quality big men, poor perimeter and weak interior defense (we don't have good shotblocker), how can we escape death at the hands of formidable foes like china and the emerging powerhouse iran..Some will say let us pray or the ball is round who knows what will happen..Whatsoever I still gonna root for our nat'l squad win or lose........

SkyWalker
06-07-2007, 02:43 PM
Our national squad face an awesome challenge with china at the bracket A in the so called group of death. How will they be able to pass their mission with the PBA style of playing still in our team pilipinas system (if you watched ASEAN Tournament in thailand the way our pros played as a team), our lack of height and quality big men, poor perimeter and weak interior defense (we don't have good shotblocker), how can we escape death at the hands of formidable foes like china and the emerging powerhouse iran..Some will say let us pray or the ball is round who knows what will happen..Whatsoever I still gonna root for our nat'l squad win or lose........


the only way for us to win game against Iran:

.. is for coach chot to include junthy valenzuela into the team. my tip to junthy is when we play iran, he should bring an army knife and stab all the iranian players at the back, just like what he's doing in the PBA right now. :D

daniab
06-07-2007, 02:53 PM
I think we got a chance against Iran and especially Jordan... I don't think these teams would ever make it to the top 5 in the 2006 Asian Games if the Philippines was there... about China... its the "B" team who beat the "A" team... so I don't think we can beat them... but with faith and courage you'll never know we'll top group A...

Go Team Pilipinas!!!...

About the coaches... we already have Chot Reyes as the Head Coach... we don't need Tim Cone or Jong Uichico... we need a defensive specialist coach, a rebounding specialist coach, a shooting specialist coach, and so on... not three head coaches!!!

Don't be sure about Jordan !! listen to me donmar !!
Jordan have a lot a good players like Ayman Deis,Zaid l Khass(i respect this player very much),Enver( Wonderful 3pts Shooter),Rasheim Wright(Third best scorer in Lebanese League 29.6 per game),Sam Doughlas(very good Guard) and others.
Be sure that jordan is much better than Iran,anyway those analysis don't have kind of credibility.
Iran also have a lot of best players in Asia specially Hammed Ahadadi 218 cm.
Be Carefull ;)

jrb0yd
06-07-2007, 03:14 PM
yeah u beat blue stars , which is the 2nd best team in lebanon , not the best(riyadi) and they had 2 really average imports , not to mention Lebanon NT is much stronger than blue stars .....we have beshara,vogel,ali mahmoud,ali f,omar and sabah are all not in blue stars...the only good players at blue stars were fadi,rony and roy but roy didnt play , i dont really no y.........but as i said philippines play good against leb and lose to almost every1 else i dont really no y but i dont c them winning any game next month....Jordan,Iran and China are probably the tallest 3 teams in the tournament and as we saw in tehran philippines get demolished against taller team(saba,jalaa,rayan,even the kazakhi team)..........

u cannot just judge our team by seeing them in only 1 game... i read lebanon will have a camp here in rp and if ever they take on the top 3 teams in the pba, for sure they will lost all their games by huge margins... u also cannot judge our "team last month" to our "team next month"... the remaining 1 month will make our team tougher... lebanon for me will fall in the next round because of their short training...

jrb0yd
06-07-2007, 03:19 PM
the only way for us to win game against Iran:

.. is for coach chot to include junthy valenzuela into the team. my tip to junthy is when we play iran, he should bring an army knife and stab all the iranian players at the back, just like what he's doing in the PBA right now. :D

haha... he's not called "the hitman" for nothing... i remember seeing his latest victim mac cardona... a couple of hit shots in the head... hehe

Phantim3dx
06-07-2007, 04:13 PM
haha... he's not called "the hitman" for nothing... i remember seeing his latest victim mac cardona... a couple of hit shots in the head... hehe


got a video?

karim
06-07-2007, 04:44 PM
u cannot just judge our team by seeing them in only 1 game... i read lebanon will have a camp here in rp and if ever they take on the top 3 teams in the pba, for sure they will lost all their games by huge margins... u also cannot judge our "team last month" to our "team next month"... the remaining 1 month will make our team tougher... lebanon for me will fall in the next round because of their short training...

ya its possible but i predict philippines falling in the first round......

jason_28c
06-08-2007, 01:38 AM
Hey karim, Wanna bet, Philippines will get past First Round?

apiSigbinz
06-08-2007, 02:13 AM
yeah u beat blue stars , which is the 2nd best team in lebanon , not the best(riyadi) and they had 2 really average imports , not to mention Lebanon NT is much stronger than blue stars .....we have beshara,vogel,ali mahmoud,ali f,omar and sabah are all not in blue stars...the only good players at blue stars were fadi,rony and roy but roy didnt play , i dont really no y.........but as i said philippines play good against leb and lose to almost every1 else i dont really no y but i dont c them winning any game next month....Jordan,Iran and China are probably the tallest 3 teams in the tournament and as we saw in tehran philippines get demolished against taller team(saba,jalaa,rayan,even the kazakhi team)..........


as i'v said bro karim, its only their first tournament after they resume training when the FIBA banned lifted, i'm not saying that they will beat every team in Japan next month but i have seen hope in them and that's where all dream start to realize... HOPE...... the luxury cigarette! hehehe jokes....

pilipinas02
06-08-2007, 02:23 AM
As Ed Picson said........"Let's give 'em HELL!!!!!:mad:

Phantim3dx
06-08-2007, 06:27 AM
Hey karim, Wanna bet, Philippines will get past First Round?


why dont u guys just bet. if philippines loses and does nto go to 2nd round all the new filipinos in this thread leave because they brag to much, and if philippines goes thru then karim must always praise the philippines basketball team and then not visit the site for 1 year.

protossdomain
06-08-2007, 07:43 AM
why dont u guys just bet. if philippines loses and does nto go to 2nd round all the new filipinos in this thread leave because they brag to much, and if philippines goes thru then karim must always praise the philippines basketball team and then not visit the site for 1 year.

Fair enough. But how about Karim must always praise the Philippine Team and visit the site for 1 year just by doing so? ;)

VII
06-08-2007, 07:44 AM
why dont u guys just bet. if philippines loses and does nto go to 2nd round all the new filipinos in this thread leave because they brag to much, and if philippines goes thru then karim must always praise the philippines basketball team and then not visit the site for 1 year.

im new...i dont brag...and i wont bet!!
coz im scared of all the team there hahahah
anyone can know any team

Projectspeed
06-08-2007, 08:05 AM
why dont u guys just bet. if philippines loses and does nto go to 2nd round all the new filipinos in this thread leave because they brag to much, and if philippines goes thru then karim must always praise the philippines basketball team and then not visit the site for 1 year.

I don't agree with that sarcastic?... elementary bet:D

this will not adhere to the main objective of this forum...:D

and that is to interchange basketball info., updates and knowledge with others :D

absence of Filipino or just Karim will make the site boring:D :D

Phantim3dx
06-08-2007, 11:34 AM
absence of Filipino or just Karim will make the site boring:D :D


I guess you have a point here... there would be no drama that filipino bloodlines just have,

SkyWalker
06-08-2007, 12:54 PM
ya its possible but i predict philippines falling in the first round......

yah its possible, but i predict, lebanon wont come to japan, because the plane that they'll be riding will crash. :D

Sakamoto
06-08-2007, 02:47 PM
Ive seen Jordan and Iran style of play and we beat them before. Jordan is also a tall team but i think they are slow specially their frontliners. Our guards are much more talented compare to them. The key to win the games againts them is our outside shooting. If we can convert our outside shots it will open up the middle then its the chance for Asi to score inside. Just expect the unexpected.

vladski
06-09-2007, 08:31 AM
Execs confident RP 5 will hurdle odds

By Nelson Beltran
Saturday, June 9, 2007



PBA top officials said the country’s tough draw in the FIBA-Asia championship could bring out the best from the Nationals in their drive for an Olympic berth in Tokushima, Japan next month.
“We’re concerned but remain optimistic. The draw didn’t determine our fate. In the end, it could become the tool leading our team to prepare hard for the battle,” said PBA commissioner Noli Eala.
“The Olympic berth is not won on the draw but on the playing court,” added Eala, confident the Nationals could make it past the Asian championship preliminary round where they’re bracketed with perennial champion China and formidable challengers Iran and Jordan.
“Our chance remains strong. We just have to try harder,” said PBA chairman Ricky Vargas.
The Nationals step up their buildup for the FIBA-Asia Olympic qualifier as they leave for an eight-day training stint in Belgrade, Serbia on Monday.
Coach Chot Reyes and his troops play five Serbian league division I ball clubs in their Belgrade stint which puts accent on the teams’ physical conditioning. Daily morning and afternoon workouts are part of their Belgrade training program.
After their Belgrade trip, the Nationals go to Chinese Taipei to compete in the Jones Cup also to be participated in by some teams entered in the Tokushima joust.
“It would be a good gauge how far our team has gone in its preparation,” said Eala.
Reyes has promised the Nationals “will go to Beijing or die trying.”
Assuming China is to win the championship, the Nationals need to finish no less than second to gain passage to the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
Aside from the slots in the Olympics, the Tokushima tourney also offers two berths to the final qualifying event for the Beijing Games.
But the final Olympic qualifying competition will be cut-throat in terms of the quality of the field with European, South American and African teams seeing action. It’s a sort of wildcard tourney for tough teams which missed Olympic berth in their respective regional qualifiers.
So for the Philippines, it’s the Olympics through Tokushima or bust.

kukoc7
06-09-2007, 06:26 PM
yah its possible, but i predict, lebanon wont come to japan, because the plane that they'll be riding will crash. :D

SMH...

pinoy pac fan
06-09-2007, 10:17 PM
We’ll go to Beijing or die trying – Chot
By Nelson Beltran
Thursday, June 7, 2007

It will be as difficult as scaling the Great Wall.

The Philippine team found its awesome task of getting into the Olympics again further compounded by drawing the toughest group in the 24th FIBA-Asian championship in Tokushima, Japan from July 28 to Aug. 5.

The Nationals have found themselves in a formidable company in the 16-team Asian Olympic qualifier with defending champion China and powerhouse challengers Iran and Jordan in the group.

“Unfortunately, we’re in the Group of Death,” said RP team coach Chot Reyes upon learning of the draw held in Tokushima yesterday.

“(The result) couldn’t have been worst. China and Iran are the biggest teams in terms of height and they’re tough. Jordan won’t be easy,” Reyes added of the RP team’s Group A.

Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Japan make up Group B; Qatar, India, Kazakhstan and Indonesia Group C and South Korea, Hong Kong, Syria and Chinese Taipei Group D.

Reyes said it could be a lot easier making the quarterfinals had they been bracketed in Group B or Group C.

“You work so hard to prepare only to leave your fate to the luck of the draw. However, this team and this country have come too far to be denied. It is not our style to dwell on negatives,” said Reyes.

“Our focus now is how to beat Iran and Jordan. China will take care of itself. We will go to Beijing or we will die trying,” Reyes added.

One thing going for RP is the fact that Reyes and his staff have scouted Iran and Jordan, third and fourth placers, respectively, in the Doha Asian Games.

“We’re familiar with those teams. We know that Jordan has a naturalized players in Raheim White, a touring pro who used to play as import in the Jordanian league,” said Reyes.

Incidentally, the Philippines suffered a 47-63 defeat in a three-quarter tune-up game with Iran during the rest day in the recent FIBA-Asia Champions Cup in Tehran, Iran. The Iran team features three centers standing at least 6-foot-11.

“Another good thing with this draw is the possibility of lighter assignments in the quarterfinals. The problem is how to get out of the group games,” said Reyes.

But Reyes stressed they will do their best to achieve their goal of making it to the 2008 Olympics in Beijing.

BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio attended the draw supervised by FIBA Asia first deputy secretary general Khajirian Hagop of Lebanon.

“The Philippines was drawn second to last. The draw was fair with media coverage,” said Gregorio in a text message.

source: philstar.com



There he goes again with his sound bytes and all his "group of death, we will die trying" BS. I dont care if we get grouped with China, Korea, Lebanon or whoever in the group stages, as long as my team fights hard and dont back down, I dont care if we get eliminated early.

He's already bitching around and kinda giving excuses. I dont want my team to be scared of anybody, even if the other team is clearly bigger or stronger. They sound like theyre avoiding China and Lebanon and all those big teams. Theyve already lost even before stepping on the court. Chot's such a bitch.

We shouldnt have gotten that "metrosexual fashionista inspirational coaching master" to handle the RP team. He got the job because of the detailed plans for the NT which he presented to the PBA board, but I think they should have gotten Yeng Guiao instead.

Honestly, I hate Yeng Guiao's guts. He's arrogant, he's ill tempered, he's like a bully in the sidelines, but even so, he's an amazing motivator. Look what he's done to his team, RedBull. Their lineup doesnt really have marquee players. Celino Cruz? Junthy? Sharma? Baguio? Ybanez? Come on. He turned players who were discards, or passed on in the draft, or were thought of as damaged goods, and molded them to become a great team.

He doesnt always want the players with the nicest stats, the highest leapers, the quickest dribblers or the best scorers. For his team, he picks gamers, scrappers, players with big hearts, who always have big balls at crunch time, a never say die mentality even if theyre limited in talent.

That's what we need for our team. Substance over style. Players who sincerely, in their hearts dont give up on the game as long as there's still time, and not the the ones who are just saying that they wont give up. We need a tough, hard nosed team. We dont need an all star line up.

ctongco
06-10-2007, 02:24 AM
There he goes again with his sound bytes and all his "group of death, we will die trying" BS. I dont care if we get grouped with China, Korea, Lebanon or whoever in the group stages, as long as my team fights hard and dont back down, I dont care if we get eliminated early.

He's already bitching around and kinda giving excuses. I dont want my team to be scared of anybody, even if the other team is clearly bigger or stronger. They sound like theyre avoiding China and Lebanon and all those big teams. Theyve already lost even before stepping on the court. Chot's such a bitch.

We shouldnt have gotten that "metrosexual fashionista inspirational coaching master" to handle the RP team. He got the job because of the detailed plans for the NT which he presented to the PBA board, but I think they should have gotten Yeng Guiao instead.

Honestly, I hate Yeng Guiao's guts. He's arrogant, he's ill tempered, he's like a bully in the sidelines, but even so, he's an amazing motivator. Look what he's done to his team, RedBull. Their lineup doesnt really have marquee players. Celino Cruz? Junthy? Sharma? Baguio? Ybanez? Come on. He turned players who were discards, or passed on in the draft, or were thought of as damaged goods, and molded them to become a great team.

He doesnt always want the players with the nicest stats, the highest leapers, the quickest dribblers or the best scorers. For his team, he picks gamers, scrappers, players with big hearts, who always have big balls at crunch time, a never say die mentality even if theyre limited in talent.

That's what we need for our team. Substance over style. Players who sincerely, in their hearts dont give up on the game as long as there's still time, and not the the ones who are just saying that they wont give up. We need a tough, hard nosed team. We dont need an all star line up.


I don't think he was "giving excuses". Why would he give excuses this early? In truth the Philippines is in the bracket with strong competition. The coach was chosen and we know that he has a plan. The least that we can do is give him a chance to do good for Philippine Basketball. The games have not started yet and a lot of "fans" are already complaining about a lot of things. You're right we do not need an all-star line-up, if we had an all-star line-up you would have James Yap and Willie Miller in the team. I do agree that Coach Yeng Guiao is an excellent coach, so is Coach Chot Reyes. Both of them have their own style of coaching. Both of them have their own ways to win. Lastly, I don't think Coach Chot Reyes wants to back down. As quoted from Coach Chot "We'll go to Beijing or die trying". That in itself is proof that he is not backing away.

onono1
06-10-2007, 03:09 AM
yah its possible, but i predict, lebanon wont come to japan, because the plane that they'll be riding will crash. :D


Oh oh oh, i know you were just joking dude u dont mean saying it to happen :eek: But i agree to bringing in junthy valenzuela to have a deadly enforcer for our nat'l team hehehehehehe :D

donmar
06-10-2007, 03:18 AM
I think Karim just can't accept that we beat the shit out of his team for how many games now!... hmmmm?

pinoy pac fan
06-10-2007, 03:57 AM
I don't think he was "giving excuses". Why would he give excuses this early? In truth the Philippines is in the bracket with strong competition. The coach was chosen and we know that he has a plan. The least that we can do is give him a chance to do good for Philippine Basketball. The games have not started yet and a lot of "fans" are already complaining about a lot of things. You're right we do not need an all-star line-up, if we had an all-star line-up you would have James Yap and Willie Miller in the team. I do agree that Coach Yeng Guiao is an excellent coach, so is Coach Chot Reyes. Both of them have their own style of coaching. Both of them have their own ways to win. Lastly, I don't think Coach Chot Reyes wants to back down. As quoted from Coach Chot "We'll go to Beijing or die trying". That in itself is proof that he is not backing away.

It all sounds like just words to me man.It doesnt sound like he'd toughened up the guys enough to play balls out, kamikaze basketball. Just sound bytes IMO. I never liked Chot, even when he was coaching for Purefoods, my favorite team as a kid. He's always overly dramatic, whiny and talks about basketball like it was rocket science. Reminds me of the "Actor's studio" Talk show where they interview movie stars about method acting, their craft and shet.

Yeng Guiao though, love him or hate that arrogant and mean guy, clearly makes decent talent become a great fit for his team. Think about it. Other teams thought these players didnt look good enough for them. Fonacier and Sharma were thought of as damaged goods (bad knees), Fonacier became ROY awardee. Topex and Ybanez was too small, Celino Cruz was too slow and cant shoot 3s, Baguio was too wild, Najorda too small to be a big guy, Junthy who? etc etc.

I think the reason why his team plays so well is because he has full confidence in his players, he dont shout at them on the court and he'll fight for his players even if it means fines or ejections. If I had a coach like that, I'd love to play my guts out for him coz he got my back.

RedBull probably has one of the lowest salaries vs all the PBA elite teams, But the team always gets to the semis, and many times to the finals. He knows how to pick good talent from the draft and free agency too even if the players werent marquee college players.

Kirby Raymundo, Willie Miller, Torion, Tugade, Pennisi, Harp etc.

Chot's choices were mostly hit and miss though.
Ramas, Sta.Maria, Dela Rosa, Jeck Chia, Ticzon, Hizon, Racela

onono1
06-10-2007, 04:28 AM
I think Karim just can't accept that we beat the shit out of his team for how many games now!... hmmmm?

Guys guys guys take it easy, its the fact not the fiction that's the reason our asian neighbors are belittling the capabilities of our TEAM PHILIPPINES. They have seen how our players played against taller and bigger opposing teams and how they lose. They will just surprise or shock if our team emerged second behind china in group A (if we manage to defeat iran and jordan) ;)

ctongco
06-10-2007, 04:36 AM
It all sounds like just words to me man.It doesnt sound like he'd toughened up the guys enough to play balls out, kamikaze basketball. Just sound bytes IMO. I never liked Chot, even when he was coaching for Purefoods, my favorite team as a kid. He's always overly dramatic, whiny and talks about basketball like it was rocket science. Reminds me of the "Actor's studio" Talk show where they interview movie stars about method acting, their craft and shet.

Yeng Guiao though, love him or hate that arrogant and mean guy, clearly makes decent talent become a great fit for his team. Think about it. Other teams thought these players didnt look good enough for them. Fonacier and Sharma were thought of as damaged goods (bad knees), Fonacier became ROY awardee. Topex and Ybanez was too small, Celino Cruz was too slow and cant shoot 3s, Baguio was too wild, Najorda too small to be a big guy, Junthy who? etc etc.

I think the reason why his team plays so well is because he has full confidence in his players, he dont shout at them on the court and he'll fight for his players even if it means fines or ejections. If I had a coach like that, I'd love to play my guts out for him coz he got my back.

RedBull probably has one of the lowest salaries vs all the PBA elite teams, But the team always gets to the semis, and many times to the finals. He knows how to pick good talent from the draft and free agency too even if the players werent marquee college players.

Kirby Raymundo, Willie Miller, Torion, Tugade, Pennisi, Harp etc.

Chot's choices were mostly hit and miss though.
Ramas, Sta.Maria, Dela Rosa, Jeck Chia, Ticzon, Hizon, Racela


Let's just give Coach Chot the chance in the coming FIBA-Asia Championships. One thing I like about Coach Chot is his shuffling and re-shuffling of players on the court. He always wants to have fresh legs on the court minimizing fatigue on his players.

I do agree that Coach Yeng Guaio puts a lot of trust in his players, unlike Coach Ryan Gregorio who only uses players when they perform well in recent games.

SkyWalker
06-10-2007, 04:39 AM
Guys guys guys take it easy, its the fact not the fiction that's the reason our asian neighbors are belittling the capabilities of our TEAM PHILIPPINES. They have seen how our players played against taller and bigger opposing teams and how they lose. They will just surprise or shock if our team emerged second behind china in group A (if we manage to defeat iran and jordan) ;)

i agree. :)

saints13
06-10-2007, 01:11 PM
Let's just give Coach Chot the chance in the coming FIBA-Asia Championships. One thing I like about Coach Chot is his shuffling and re-shuffling of players on the court. He always wants to have fresh legs on the court minimizing fatigue on his players.

I do agree that Coach Yeng Guaio puts a lot of trust in his players, unlike Coach Ryan Gregorio who only uses players when they perform well in recent games.

First of all, I respect all the coaches in Philippine basketball, they have their own philosophies to be respected. The only coach I didn't like much was the one using chalk and writes at the bench floor during the 90's..I think its Joe Lipa, no offense, it really makes me wonder considering magnets and boards are available already :)

I'm a Yeng Guiao fan too, I love his palaban attitude and the way he motivates his players and his "no-superstar, everybody contributes" basketball philosophy. I believe in Yeng Guiao, so with his team Red Bull. Back then in Swift, akala ko e tripper sya, dahil nagpakalbo pa sila kasama niya yun buong team dahil natalo sila sa semis ng SMB, haha.

I used to hate Chot Reyes when I was a kid because my team is San Miguel and their archrival is Purefoods in 1993. He used to be a technical foul collector back then because he complains too much and he always acts his heart out.

He even contributed to the formation of the now defunct MBA.

He was the scout of the 1998 RP Centennial team, he loves scouting other teams. Lately, Chot Reyes has done superb improvement with his former team upon its entry to the PBA which is Coca Cola. He educates himself with international basketball, he even went to Argentina and other parts of the globe. The man has tremendous passion for the game, I personally am impressed with his basketball philosophy in the RP team, using 2 point guards at the same time in a game, making big men develop 3 pt shooting and integrating this to a whole basketball system, he is trying to renew the image of Philippine basketball in the international arena.

To sum it all up, coach Chot is damn qualified for this job, considering there are others like Yeng Guiao that is qualified too. Yeng Guiao will have his time, but now its coach Chot's turn. Ron Jacobs, Robert Jaworski, Norman Black, Tim Cone and even Jong Uichico had their chances, so will Yeng Guiao too. I'm excited if ever the not so friendly tormentor/mentor Guiao will make it to the RP team, will our RP team be converted to a mixed-martial arts team, hehe, just kidding.

Today Chot Reyes, tommorrow Yeng Guiao! :) hopefully!

PinoyBBALL
06-10-2007, 02:05 PM
I hate coach yeng as a rival of my purefoods team, since when he was coaching swift and red bull, but i cant deny that he was such a good tactician, motivator, and most of all a good intimidator. A good intimidator in way that he can channel his desire to intimidate through his players.. Ala Jawo.. As far as who is better between him and Coach chot, i gues , to sum all their talents i think they are pretty much equal.. Both of them has its own style that we don't know which will work well for our team.. But since coach chot has started it all now, lets jus give him a chance to prove that he has what it takes to win. As for coach yeng, his going to have his time.. And i can't wait to see rp team equiped with flying elbows, and sharp knees..After all we were once tag by imports as dirty players before especially during Jawo days so its just a matter of time that coach yeng will revive it.. "Tyson wins boxing not by mere power of his punch but his INTIMIDATION in the ring has attributed much of it.." just my own opinion..hehehe..

saints13
06-10-2007, 02:36 PM
I hate coach yeng as a rival of my purefoods team, since when he was coaching swift and red bull, but i cant deny that he was such a good tactician, motivator, and most of all a good intimidator. A good intimidator in way that he can channel his desire to intimidate through his players.. Ala Jawo.. As far as who is better between him and Coach chot, i gues , to sum all their talents i think they are pretty much equal.. Both of them has its own style that we don't know which will work well for our team.. But since coach chot has started it all now, lets jus give him a chance to prove that he has what it takes to win. As for coach yeng, his going to have his time.. And i can't wait to see rp team equiped with flying elbows, and sharp knees..After all we were once tag by imports as dirty players before especially during Jawo days so its just a matter of time that coach yeng will revive it.. "Tyson wins boxing not by mere power of his punch but his INTIMIDATION in the ring has attributed much of it.." just my own opinion..hehehe..

apir! :) it's like yeng guiao waited for jaworski to depart the PBA and jawo's spirit was reincarnated in coach yeng.haha. I used to hate Jawo because he's mean and dirty as for Yeng Guiao, I use to hate him because he is kalbo, joke, I use to be a Tim Cone fan because of his triangle offense. One philosophy of Jawo and Guiao that I find similar, "foul hard" kapag fafoul ang Ginebra player dati siguradong hindi na makakatira ng counted foul yun dahil siguradong HARD as in HARD ang foul, same with Red Bull, bawal ang mestisong foul, haha.

I've seen a lot of fights in the PBA, but seeing a coach having physical contact with a player, that's a sight to behold, haha, first, I saw Jawo punched the import Frederick Pea of Sta. Lucia back then (i wasn't sure if its 1993 or 1994 or 1995, kindly correct me anyone) another one was the latest alleged Yeng Guiao's elbowing of DonDon Hontiveros (i wonder if umarte lang sa pagbulagta si DonDon).

Imagine kapag may magaling na kalaban, for example si El Khatib, lumay-up tapos ang pipigil lang sa kanya e siko ni Yeng Guiao, astig! haha. Baka ma-ban tayo sa international competition dahil ginawa nating multi-disciplinary ang basketball dahil hinaluan na natin ng mixed martial arts, haha. Speaking of which, nun 2002 Asian games, sinundot ni Cariaso ang tiyan ni Orimo (yun Japanese version ni RenRen Ritualo) nun hindi na niya ito mapigilan sa kakashoot, gumulong si Orimo at nagrereklamo sa mga referee na sinuntok daw siya sa tiyan nakaclose fist siya tapos sinesenyas nya sa mga ref, hehe. After ng play na yun e hindi na naging consistent ang shooting ni Orimo, and worse, nanggigil si Orimo kay Cariaso, siguro gusto makabawi, hayun, grumaduate xa, sinagasaan siya ni Cariaso, counted foul! bow! :) Salamat sa gulang, nanalo ang RP team.hehe.

Kidding aside, if the 1990 Robert Jaworski led team won a silver medal in Asiad, how bout Jawo's reincarnation Yeng Guiao in the 2010 Asiad? Mas exciting panoorin malamang, hindi mo alam kung ano pwede gawin ng mga players, kung may matutulad ba kay Eugene Tejada sa mga international players, o kung susundutin ba ni Pennisi ang mata ni Yao Ming, o kung hahamunin ba ng suntukan ni Enrico Villanueva si Yi Jian Lian, haha.

Well, as far as I can see, the coach's philosophy reflects the image of a national team. Iran and China play like Europeans because of their coaches. So if, and only if, after the Tokushima Mission of the RP team, if another goal was to be set, I hope they would consider Coach Yeng Guiao, bow!. :)

karim
06-10-2007, 11:27 PM
sorry i havent joined in a while.....im sure u guys missed me and ya ur right this site without me would be boring ;) how r my pinoy buddies doing ? still pissed off about the draw or everythings better now ?

saints13
06-11-2007, 12:11 AM
sorry i havent joined in a while.....im sure u guys missed me and ya ur right this site without me would be boring ;) how r my pinoy buddies doing ? still pissed off about the draw or everythings better now ?

well..it's good your keeping yourself busy in the Filipino thread :)

Kindly invite other Arabs to post here :)

exchange of infos is much better...

too much Karim.. too much Lebanese..hehehe

why is it that there are no Iranians posting? :cool:

donmar
06-11-2007, 04:10 AM
sorry i havent joined in a while.....im sure u guys missed me and ya ur right this site without me would be boring ;) how r my pinoy buddies doing ? still pissed off about the draw or everythings better now ?

hehehehe!!!... Good on you Karim!

karim
06-11-2007, 05:04 AM
the Iranians are probably on some soccer site ;)

pinoy pac fan
06-11-2007, 05:29 AM
the Iranians are probably on some soccer site ;)

Hi there Karim. Is your area safe there? I heard on the news there's some not so nice things happening some place in your country. :(

donmar
06-11-2007, 05:45 AM
Hi there Karim. Is your area safe there? I heard on the news there's some not so nice things happening some place in your country. :(

What's happening in Lebanon could be a motivation for the members of the Lebanese national team to win the FIBA Asia Championship!!!...

d'dreamer
06-11-2007, 06:52 AM
sorry i havent joined in a while.....im sure u guys missed me and ya ur right this site without me would be boring ;) how r my pinoy buddies doing ? still pissed off about the draw or everythings better now ?
Karim, its good you are back. I'm just new here. hey, i have a question but I know its really late to be asking this and i think this is not the right thread for this question but to get your attention and i know you have an idea of this just for the recrod. I didn't have the chance to watch the games of lebanon at the champions cup in Iran. Do you think if not losing to the Philippines, your team could have been the eventual champion? I mean do you think your team could beat the Syrian and Iranian teams?

rensquared
06-11-2007, 07:20 AM
the Iranians are probably on some soccer site ;)
Welcome back dude

demonyito
06-11-2007, 07:27 AM
Welcome back dude

thanks pare;)

Project888
06-11-2007, 09:15 AM
we will really die tryin to pass the q. finals in fiba-asia championships thanks to kelly williams. Some reports said that kelly will really not play for the rp team! WE'RE DOOMED!
but it's ok, i think, kelly will not stop the rp team from fighting! there are lots of skillfull players in the pba but the problem is coach chot just can't knock the door of the mother team, go inside the playofs party and kidnap a player!
IT'S PLAYOFFS! we need a guy who's used in the fiba rules!
REMEMBER pba players ain't familiar with the fiba rules! back to basics to para kay coach chot! DAMMIT! DOES ANYONE KNOW HERE HOW TO CONTACT COACH CHOT AND TELL HIM WTF HE'S DOING AND TELL HIM WHO ARE REALLY THE PLAYERS IN THE RP TEAM!
pabago bago nman ksi! nagbigay na nga ng oras sa kanya para pumili ng mga players para sa rp team, eh, ano na nangyari, magbabago na nman!
let me guess, pagpangit nman pinakita ng laro ng mga members ng rp team, babaguhin na nman! F***!
if kelly don't wants to join, who do u think should fill up the blank spot in the rp team?

Project888
06-11-2007, 09:17 AM
sorry i havent joined in a while.....im sure u guys missed me and ya ur right this site without me would be boring ;) how r my pinoy buddies doing ? still pissed off about the draw or everythings better now ?

WHOOO! KARIM IS BACK TO SCOUT OUR RP TEAM!
be a good boy scout
PEACE!!!

demonyito
06-11-2007, 09:28 AM
double post:)

rensquared
06-11-2007, 09:37 AM
we will really die tryin to pass the q. finals in fiba-asia championships thanks to kelly williams. Some reports said that kelly will really not play for the rp team! WE'RE DOOMED!
but it's ok, i think, kelly will not stop the rp team from fighting! there are lots of skillfull players in the pba but the problem is coach chot just can't knock the door of the mother team, go inside the playofs party and kidnap a player!
IT'S PLAYOFFS! we need a guy who's used in the fiba rules!
REMEMBER pba players ain't familiar with the fiba rules! back to basics to para kay coach chot! DAMMIT! DOES ANYONE KNOW HERE HOW TO CONTACT COACH CHOT AND TELL HIM WTF HE'S DOING AND TELL HIM WHO ARE REALLY THE PLAYERS IN THE RP TEAM!
pabago bago nman ksi! nagbigay na nga ng oras sa kanya para pumili ng mga players para sa rp team, eh, ano na nangyari, magbabago na nman!
let me guess, pagpangit nman pinakita ng laro ng mga members ng rp team, babaguhin na nman! F***!
if kelly don't wants to join, who do u think should fill up the blank spot in the rp team?

What? KElly will not play? Where did you get that news? Links please

Project888
06-11-2007, 09:43 AM
scouting for Philippine NT is easier than expected. we're the most exposed team in Asia. thanks to the good communication skill and even IT people who graciously updating games in youtube for free. and here we brag and brag:( makes life easier for opposing scouts.

of all the teams, we are the only one who's writing and talking in english. Karim and the rest can write in Arabic, Chinese, korean, japanese..makes harder for our coach to understand

MGA IBA KSI MAG TAGALOG NA LNG KAYO! PHILIPPINE FORUM NMAN TO EH!
ALAM KO KSI MAY MGA SCOUTS DITO SA INTERBASKET! SHIT TALAGA!
believe it or not but it's true!

ATTENTION!!!
RP TEAM BECAME STRONGER TNX TO NEW LINE UP!!! ;)
WHOOO! WITH THIS MEMBERS OF THE RP TEAM, THEY CAN BEAT ANYONE!

RP TEAM MEMBERS:
KEN BONO
MACKY ESCALONA
DOUG KRAMER
MARK CAGUIOA
DANNY SIEGLE
RYAN REYES
ASI TAULAVA
GREGORY SLAUGHTER
JASON CASTRO
JC INTAL
MANG PEPE
TITO BOBBY

RESERVES:
RAJA BAUTISTA
RICO NEGRO
RAMON NEAL

Project888
06-11-2007, 09:51 AM
What? KElly will not play? Where did you get that news? Links please

don't blame me if this info is shit!
tingnan mo na lng sa rp team forum sa pba, may topic dun na confirmed na di daw maglalaro sa rp team si kelly! alam mo nman yata saan yung rp forum sa pba, bka ksi lumipat mga scouts dun! ;)

rensquared
06-11-2007, 10:02 AM
don't blame me if this info is shit!
tingnan mo na lng sa rp team forum sa pba, may topic dun na confirmed na di daw maglalaro sa rp team si kelly! alam mo nman yata saan yung rp forum sa pba, bka ksi lumipat mga scouts dun! ;)

ayos.. salamat pare.. Badtrip.. di ko maaccess yun forum sa pba.. Disabled daw e. TUlong naman....

saints13
06-11-2007, 10:17 AM
Mga players na tumatanggi sa RP team e nagkakaroon ng negative effect sa careers nila, just like for fanatics like us, sumasama ang loob natin kapag di sila naglalaro sa RP team, hehe. Well, if a particular person won't play, e di palitan, dami dami talents ng Philippine Basketball, it won't have to depend on individual talents because he can dunk, he's swift, he has style. Opinion ko lang naman to, people may argue but if Kelly won't play sa RP team, e ano pang silbi na dinala sya ni Chot dito, he was introduced to Chot Reyes during the World Basketball Summit and somehow a friend/related to Rudy Hatfield.
Speaking of Rudy Hatfield, its a blessing in disguise that he opted to get out of the RP team, his wrestler antics wont help, hehe, but he's such a workhorse in the paint, but there are a lot of FILIPINO workhorses out there who will work 200% for our flag and country. About Kelly opting out too,is this a psywar strategy or what? How bout fielding in James Yap, since he's stable physocologically after those nerve wracking intrigues and his wife already gave birth, I think nothing will bother him when he plays in the RP team. The Purefoods were knocked out already, I wish Coach Chot is considering another DonDon/RenRen caliber of player in the persona of James Yap. The problem about James Yap is he's not a double-edged blade, he's sharp on offense but a bit weak on defense. Let's just see.:)

*P.S. Why not field in the "bad boys" of Red Bull and put Coach Yeng as coach, so that we won't die in Beijing, we'll have our killers on board!!! :D
just kidding!

*(The information I've said is very raw, I don't think its true even if it came from me, kindly confirm)

Fil-Aus Boy
06-11-2007, 10:55 AM
MGA IBA KSI MAG TAGALOG NA LNG KAYO! PHILIPPINE FORUM NMAN TO EH!
ALAM KO KSI MAY MGA SCOUTS DITO SA INTERBASKET! SHIT TALAGA!
believe it or not but it's true!

ATTENTION!!!
RP TEAM BECAME STRONGER TNX TO NEW LINE UP!!! ;)
WHOOO! WITH THIS MEMBERS OF THE RP TEAM, THEY CAN BEAT ANYONE!

RP TEAM MEMBERS:
KEN BONO
MACKY ESCALONA
DOUG KRAMER
MARK CAGUIOA
DANNY SIEGLE
RYAN REYES
ASI TAULAVA
GREGORY SLAUGHTER
JASON CASTRO
JC INTAL
MANG PEPE
TITO BOBBY

RESERVES:
RAJA BAUTISTA
RICO NEGRO
RAMON NEAL
Chill out...

demonyito
06-11-2007, 11:54 AM
*P.S. Why not field in the "bad boys" of Red Bull and put Coach Yeng as coach, so that we won't die in Beijing, we'll have our killers on board!!! :D
just kidding!



Yeng Guiao could have been the best choice.

pinoy pac fan
06-11-2007, 12:26 PM
Ive always said the one of the ways that we can make sure that every single member of the senior RP team will play with 100% effort all the time in international tourneys is to return to the "open try-outs" that the RP team did many years ago, since the 1930s until the 1980s. It would be open to all amateurs and pros, anyone can register for free as long as youre a Pinoy. That would weed out all the guys who arent so enthusiastic and dont have their whole heart ready to sacrifice everything for the honor of our country.

And there should be no invitations by the selection committee to any player, even if he's the PBA MVP. Everyone who registers is basically a volunteer. Nobody asked them to play for the country, its their own choice, its their free will to be part of the squad. And the selection committe should disregard all the accolades, awards and trophies of the player trying out. It should be a clean slate, the player's performance in the try-outs should be the only basis why he will be selected or not selected.

Man, when that club is formed, you KNOW they'll play so hard and with so much pride, fighting spirit every time theyre on court.

If some PBA superstar player registered only because of pressure, nahihiya sila sa bayan nila, I know he's not gonna be chosen because of a poor showing during try-outs.

Ganun lang un. :cool:

watiwawa
06-11-2007, 01:16 PM
speaking of bad boys...

remember nio pa ba ung gnwa ni cardona ka tubid...

eh diba mraming mainitin ang ulo sa asia...

field tubid.... hahaha...

saints13
06-11-2007, 01:41 PM
speaking of bad boys...

remember nio pa ba ung gnwa ni cardona ka tubid...

eh diba mraming mainitin ang ulo sa asia...

field tubid.... hahaha...

E di maglagay tayo ng RP Team BB as in BAD BOYS sa Manila Invitational Tournament :) :D Ewan ko lang kung hindi nila katakutan ang Pilipinas. :D

saints13
06-11-2007, 01:50 PM
Ive always said the one of the ways that we can make sure that every single member of the senior RP team will play with 100% effort all the time in international tourneys is to return to the "open try-outs" that the RP team did many years ago, since the 1930s until the 1980s. It would be open to all amateurs and pros, anyone can register for free as long as youre a Pinoy. That would weed out all the guys who arent so enthusiastic and dont have their whole heart ready to sacrifice everything for the honor of our country.

And there should be no invitations by the selection committee to any player, even if he's the PBA MVP. Everyone who registers is basically a volunteer. Nobody asked them to play for the country, its their own choice, its their free will to be part of the squad. And the selection committe should disregard all the accolades, awards and trophies of the player trying out. It should be a clean slate, the player's performance in the try-outs should be the only basis why he will be selected or not selected.

Man, when that club is formed, you KNOW they'll play so hard and with so much pride, fighting spirit every time theyre on court.

If some PBA superstar player registered only because of pressure, nahihiya sila sa bayan nila, I know he's not gonna be chosen because of a poor showing during try-outs.

Ganun lang un. :cool:

nice idea! :)

We will have the most dedicated players on-board, problem is, magkakaroon ng conflict of interest, particularly sa livelihood nila at sa mga mother ball clubs nila. practically siguro kailangan kahit papaano may incentive kahit insurance man lang, hehe, tapos iparada sila sa Manila parang kay Manny Pacquiao, joke. I hope na ang San Miguel Corporation eh pangmatagalan pang hawakan/sponsoran ang Seniors NT, pati na rin yun Women's at Juniors NT e sponsoran na rin nila. The fact na Filipinos lack height, we also are short in finances, hehe. Pero I think, sooner or later, mother ball clubs will get used to loaning players for the NT, total e binago naman na yung PBA Calendar, mas rigid nga lang talaga yun preparation ngayon kaya maraming mother ball clubs na naapektuhan, San Miguel Beermen lang yata ang hindi apektado dahil ultimo sa 12th man unit nila e mga All-Star caliber if not e mga first 5 material.:)

pinoy pac fan
06-11-2007, 02:29 PM
Kasalanan din kasi yan ng PBA at BAP. Back then, when we still could qualify for the olympics, the BAP had the final say which players would join the RP team. MICAA leagues pa nun, wala pang PBA. Pag napili kang player, yung mother ballclub di makaka angal sa BAP, in fact, honored pa nga sila to have their player chosen for the team. Kaya smooth lahat.

Then in 1975, nagka PBA, di na sila under ng BAP. Di sila mapipilit na kuhanan ng player basta2x. Boolshet kasi yung president ng BAP nun, si Lito Puyat, nag rebelde mga team owners sa BAP.

Inuuna kasi ngayon ang pera kesa national pride. Laki ng sweldo kaya takot ma-injury. Boolshet din and BAP kasi abusado.

saints13
06-11-2007, 06:43 PM
Kasalanan din kasi yan ng PBA at BAP. Back then, when we still could qualify for the olympics, the BAP had the final say which players would join the RP team. MICAA leagues pa nun, wala pang PBA. Pag napili kang player, yung mother ballclub di makaka angal sa BAP, in fact, honored pa nga sila to have their player chosen for the team. Kaya smooth lahat.

Then in 1975, nagka PBA, di na sila under ng BAP. Di sila mapipilit na kuhanan ng player basta2x. Boolshet kasi yung president ng BAP nun, si Lito Puyat, nag rebelde mga team owners sa BAP.

Inuuna kasi ngayon ang pera kesa national pride. Laki ng sweldo kaya takot ma-injury. Boolshet din and BAP kasi abusado.

Haha..ganun talaga. :)
Popular na ang basketball e, we have to pay the price.
Let's just wish na magflourish ang soccer sa Pinas or other sports, at wag sana magkaroon ng Pro League, hehehe.

karim
06-11-2007, 10:20 PM
Karim, its good you are back. I'm just new here. hey, i have a question but I know its really late to be asking this and i think this is not the right thread for this question but to get your attention and i know you have an idea of this just for the recrod. I didn't have the chance to watch the games of lebanon at the champions cup in Iran. Do you think if not losing to the Philippines, your team could have been the eventual champion? I mean do you think your team could beat the Syrian and Iranian teams?

Well we would have had a good chance cuz we beat all the games in the tournament except for the 1 against philippines(4-1) including an impressive win against qatar in the opener who lost to SABA(the champions) in the semis on the last basket.......and we were 1-1 against SABA a month before in WABA for clubs.....so i,de say our chances were around 75% but i think we would have reached the finals for sure against SABA and we usually play good against them cuz we have 2 lebanese big men Roy(205) and Ozeir(204) who always double Garth the giant in SABA and we win most of the games against them........they both didnt play against philippines , the coach is so stupid he put in balaa rather than try and use some size advantage.......and about the bombs they r occurring every 10 days but very small , only a few people r getting hurt on each bomb hopefully it ends soon.......

saints13
06-12-2007, 12:14 AM
Well we would have had a good chance cuz we beat all the games in the tournament except for the 1 against philippines(4-1) including an impressive win against qatar in the opener who lost to SABA(the champions) in the semis on the last basket.......and we were 1-1 against SABA a month before in WABA for clubs.....so i,de say our chances were around 75% but i think we would have reached the finals for sure against SABA and we usually play good against them cuz we have 2 lebanese big men Roy(205) and Ozeir(204) who always double Garth the giant in SABA and we win most of the games against them........they both didnt play against philippines , the coach is so stupid he put in balaa rather than try and use some size advantage.......and about the bombs they r occurring every 10 days but very small , only a few people r getting hurt on each bomb hopefully it ends soon.......

yes, Lebanon is quite impressive among Arab countries, but I think they really gotta have a clone of Fadi El-Khatib to dominate the rest of Asia this time around. :)

pinoy pac fan
06-12-2007, 08:47 AM
Well we would have had a good chance cuz we beat all the games in the tournament except for the 1 against philippines(4-1) including an impressive win against qatar in the opener who lost to SABA(the champions) in the semis on the last basket.......and we were 1-1 against SABA a month before in WABA for clubs.....so i,de say our chances were around 75% but i think we would have reached the finals for sure against SABA and we usually play good against them cuz we have 2 lebanese big men Roy(205) and Ozeir(204) who always double Garth the giant in SABA and we win most of the games against them........they both didnt play against philippines , the coach is so stupid he put in balaa rather than try and use some size advantage.......and about the bombs they r occurring every 10 days but very small , only a few people r getting hurt on each bomb hopefully it ends soon.......

I feel for you guys. When a few smalltime terrorists were setting bombs in Manila's movie theaters, trains and buses, it wasnt a pleasant experience.
Hate those bombs. :mad:

spreekanick
06-12-2007, 08:55 AM
and about the bombs they r occurring every 10 days but very small , only a few people r getting hurt on each bomb hopefully it ends soon.......
sad to hear that..i hope it ends soon.. :(

saints13
06-12-2007, 03:08 PM
yes it's an unpleasant news.. I thought there are no more bombings in Lebanon? are they U.S. smart bombs? anyways, I hope the Lebanon NT will perform well this coming Asian Championship, I really like the way El Khatib plays. :)

donmar
06-13-2007, 05:16 AM
I think what's going on in Lebanon right now could be a motivation for the Lebanese national team to perform well!... Good luck to them!

papara
06-13-2007, 07:51 AM
Yeng Guiao could have been the best choice.

Atleast he could have been added in list of assistant coaches.

donmar
06-13-2007, 07:55 AM
Atleast he could have been added in list of assistant coaches.

We don't need more than one head coaches in the National Team... Having Chot Reyes as head coach is enough... Tim Cone, Jong Uichico, Yeng Guioa or even Norman Black occupying the assistant coaching positions is too much... we need specialist coaches in those positions such as Defensive Specialist Coach, Rebounding Specialist Coach, Shooting Specialist Coach, etc....

jramoyo
06-13-2007, 09:12 PM
Childish...

If you don't want scouts to know about the RP team, then don't post anything at all... This is an international basketball forum... so please WRITE IN ENGLISH... if you can't do that, there's always a PBA forum for you guys... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


MGA IBA KSI MAG TAGALOG NA LNG KAYO! PHILIPPINE FORUM NMAN TO EH!
ALAM KO KSI MAY MGA SCOUTS DITO SA INTERBASKET! SHIT TALAGA!
believe it or not but it's true!

pachador
06-13-2007, 11:45 PM
yes , post in english !

where is that 7'6" filipino giant from mt. apo? theres no need to hide him from scouts. bring him on !

kerouac82
06-14-2007, 01:11 AM
Please, avoid from using ALL CAPS when posting. It's bad Internet etiquette and reflects badly on Filipinos. Same goes for expletives or four-letter words.

Sinobball and jramoyo, I'll take some liberties here and post in Tagalog since some of those posting here do not seem to understand English. No need to worry as this will not contain any expletives or flaming of any kind.

Mga kababayan, kaunting hinahon lang ang kailangan. Ako mismo'y magiging masaya na kapag nalampasan ng Nationals ang Group of Death na 'yun. Siyempre, mas magiging masaya ako kapag nakapasok tayo sa Beijing. Ngunit alam nating lahat na kailan lamang muli nabuo ang ating koponan dahil sa suspension na 'yun. Mahabang landas pa ang tatahakin, mga kaibigan. Kapag hindi makapasok ngayon, malamang sa 2012 -- at mas malakas pa ang lineup natin.

May tiwala ako kay Coach Chot. May programa siyang sinusunod, at sa tingin ko nama'y ginagawa niya ang lahat upang masunod iyon. Sa tingin ko nama'y walang miyembro sa Interbasket na makapapantay sa angkin niyang galing sa paghubog at pagtuturo sa koponan. At lalo na ikaw, project888: Mas nanaisin ko pang ituloy ang programa ni Coach Chot kaysa kumuha ng bagong coach at magsimula "from scratch". Hindi puwede ang shortcut-shortcut sa larong ito. Mahabaang proseso ang ginagawa ng SBP at ng Team Pilipinas.

Sang-ayon ako kay jramoyo. Kapag ayaw ninyong sumulat sa Ingles, huwag na kayong sumulat dito. E ano ngayon kung may scout dito? Hindi sila kukuha ng kaalaman tungkol sa ating koponan sa mga forum; manonood na lang sila ng mga laro ng Team Pilipinas. Nandoon ang totoong aksyon, wala rito.

Lagi nating tandaang bilang mga nagpo-post dito, dala natin ang pangalan ng Pilipinas. Ano man ang gawin natin dito, iyon ang magiging imahen natin sa mga dayuhang miyembro. Kaya, kaunting hinahon lang. At paggalang sa kapwa.

onono1
06-14-2007, 02:52 AM
yes , post in english !

where is that 7'6" filipino giant from mt. apo? theres no need to hide him from scouts. bring him on !

I just received a word from 7-6 giant's kapre father, telling me his son is just resting somewhere in the mountain because he's just "bagong tuli" (circumcized) and his behemoth son needs rest and guava leaves for medical hygiene :rolleyes:

viperbravo
06-14-2007, 03:02 AM
Please, avoid from using ALL CAPS when posting. It's bad Internet etiquette and reflects badly on Filipinos. Same goes for expletives or four-letter words.

Sinobball and jramoyo, I'll take some liberties here and post in Tagalog since some of those posting here do not seem to understand English. No need to worry as this will not contain any expletives or flaming of any kind.

Mga kababayan, kaunting hinahon lang ang kailangan. Ako mismo'y magiging masaya na kapag nalampasan ng Nationals ang Group of Death na 'yun. Siyempre, mas magiging masaya ako kapag nakapasok tayo sa Beijing. Ngunit alam nating lahat na kailan lamang muli nabuo ang ating koponan dahil sa suspension na 'yun. Mahabang landas pa ang tatahakin, mga kaibigan. Kapag hindi makapasok ngayon, malamang sa 2012 -- at mas malakas pa ang lineup natin.

May tiwala ako kay Coach Chot. May programa siyang sinusunod, at sa tingin ko nama'y ginagawa niya ang lahat upang masunod iyon. Sa tingin ko nama'y walang miyembro sa Interbasket na makapapantay sa angkin niyang galing sa paghubog at pagtuturo sa koponan. At lalo na ikaw, project888: Mas nanaisin ko pang ituloy ang programa ni Coach Chot kaysa kumuha ng bagong coach at magsimula "from scratch". Hindi puwede ang shortcut-shortcut sa larong ito. Mahabaang proseso ang ginagawa ng SBP at ng Team Pilipinas.

Sang-ayon ako kay jramoyo. Kapag ayaw ninyong sumulat sa Ingles, huwag na kayong sumulat dito. E ano ngayon kung may scout dito? Hindi sila kukuha ng kaalaman tungkol sa ating koponan sa mga forum; manonood na lang sila ng mga laro ng Team Pilipinas. Nandoon ang totoong aksyon, wala rito.

Lagi nating tandaang bilang mga nagpo-post dito, dala natin ang pangalan ng Pilipinas. Ano man ang gawin natin dito, iyon ang magiging imahen natin sa mga dayuhang miyembro. Kaya, kaunting hinahon lang. At paggalang sa kapwa.


Sang-ayon ako kay jramoyo. Kapag ayaw ninyong sumulat sa Ingles, huwag na kayong sumulat dito :rolleyes: Ehhheeemmmmm....Peace Bro!

JET007
06-21-2007, 03:49 PM
I just received a word from 7-6 giant's kapre father, telling me his son is just resting somewhere in the mountain because he's just "bagong tuli" (circumcized) and his behemoth son needs rest and guava leaves for medical hygiene :rolleyes:

:eek: :eek: :eek: HAHAHAHAHA!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: