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Khalid80
09-26-2010, 05:37 PM
US: Inverted Philippine flag was `honest mistake'

MANILA, Philippines – The U.S. government said Sunday it made an "honest mistake" when it displayed an inverted Philippine flag — which wrongfully signified that the Southeast Asian nation was in a state of war — in a meeting hosted by President Barack Obama.

The Philippine flag was displayed upside down behind President Benigno Aquino III when leaders of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations met Obama in New York on Friday.

"This was an honest mistake," U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Rebecca Thompson said in a statement, adding, "the U.S. treasures its close relationship and close partnership with the Philippines."

The American embassy will find out how the "unfortunate" incident happened, she said.

Philippine foreign affairs department spokesman Ed Malaya said the government understood that it was "an honest error" that "should not detract from the true significance of the summit, which showed the unprecedented cooperation between the ASEAN and the U.S."

It was not immediately clear who pointed out the mistake. A photograph of Aquino sitting beside Obama with the inverted flag behind them was displayed on a government website Sunday but its caption did not point out the error.

During the summit, Obama discussed ways of bolstering economic ties between the U.S. and Southeast Asia as well as Asian regional concerns such as territorial disputes in the South China Sea and Nov. 7 elections in military-ruled Myanmar.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100926/ap_on_re_as/as_philippines_us_inverted_flag

Was there any reaction to this in the Philippines?

paolylo
09-26-2010, 11:19 PM
i don't think the public had a general reaction at all. no one hates Obama for it. personally, i think it's funny. :D

i haven't seen our flag displayed upside down since a San Miguel Beer Commercial almost 20 years ago when FPJ was riding a horse and it was like a depiction of the war against the Americans.

satria_muda
09-27-2010, 12:57 AM
we talking about americans here guys..:D

but still, lucky for you guys, that flag still recognized as Philippine's flag
because if they put our flag upside down, it become Poland:D

Lewis
09-27-2010, 01:21 AM
wow that embarrassing

and then we wonder why other countries think we are an arrogant and ignorant country


Good work Oby' !!!!

durden_tyler
09-27-2010, 02:39 AM
wow that embarrassing

and then we wonder why other countries think we are an arrogant and ignorant country


Good work Oby' !!!!

We are always in a state of war anyway (at least Filipino posters vs. Filipino/non-Filipino posters here in IBN) so who cares. :D

weward
09-27-2010, 03:15 AM
We are always in a state of war anyway (at least Filipino posters vs. Filipino/non-Filipino posters here in IBN) so who cares. :D
hehe ,may i request the mods to provide us inverted flags in the
country:<icon>..
:D:D:D:p:p:p

kaiziken_pinas
09-27-2010, 11:38 AM
didn't notice it. ^_^.

although we see a lot of it during Pac Fights

c_d
09-27-2010, 02:31 PM
No Need for US Apology over Inverted RP flag, Palace Says
By GENALYN KABILING
September 27, 2010, 6:46pm

http://mb.com.ph/sites/default/files/RP-flag.jpg

The inverted Philippine flag is displayed behind President Aquino during the news conference with United States President Barack Obama at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York last Friday, September 24, 2010 (Saturday, Manila time). (Malacañang photo)

MANILA, Philippines — Malacañang will not demand a formal apology from the US government over the inverted Philippine flag displayed in a recent meeting between US President Barack Obama and Southeast Asian leaders in the US, saying it was “not an intentional insult” to the country.

Presidential Spokesman Edwin Lacierda said they are satisfied with the explanation of the US embassy in Manila that the display of the Philippine flag upside down during the US-ASEAN summit in New York City was an honest mistake.

Lacierda said they would rather “move on” after the unintended blunder made by the US government, which hosted the US-ASEAN summit in New York City, and welcome the strong relations between the Philippines and the United States.

“We are satisfied that they recognized it was an honest mistake. What’s important our relations continue to be friendly. It was not an intentional faux pas on their part,” he said when asked the Philippine government will seek a formal apology from the US.

“What we realized is these things happen. This thing not only happened to us, it has also happened previously to other countries’ flag. What’s important, it was a mistake that they recognized, it was an honest mistake and therefore we move on. We believe what’s more important is the relationship between the US and the Philippines and the good news when the President comes home tomorrow,” he added.

Lacierda said Philippine protocol officers noticed the country’s inverted flag and immediately called the attention of their US counterparts prior to the US-ASEAN assembly. The tight security, however, prevented an immediate change to the Philippine flag.

“We informed them but they tried to do their best to rectify the situation,” he said. “Unfortunately, the security was tight. They weren’t able to make the changes to the inverted flag,” he added.

http://mb.com.ph/articles/279312/no-need-us-apology-over-inverted-rp-flag-palace-says

dxjayrock2008
09-29-2010, 05:04 AM
President Obama:Are you always at a state of war?

President Aquino:HELL YEAH!!!!


:D:D:D

Phantim3dx
09-29-2010, 12:37 PM
This is for my homies!!!!

AlYuson
09-29-2010, 02:00 PM
American officials have already apologized..and whether they made an apology or not who cares :rolleyes: hohum. We have so many problems in our lives to raise a howl for an inverted phil. flag hohum..

mcampbell075
09-29-2010, 02:58 PM
Shame on who? Sigh..

dxjayrock2008
09-30-2010, 11:27 AM
Shame on who? Sigh..


President Aquino's advance party. Lol. :D

mvblair
09-30-2010, 11:48 AM
Yes, it's an honest mistake.

One day, at a school where I was working, somebody accidentally hung the American flag upside down outside the school building. A parent came into the building and said, "hey, I think the flag is upside down." No problem. The principal went outside and changed it.

Yeah, somebody could probably make a big complaint and say "oh, that's disrespecting America" or "what disrespect toward the Philippines," but they are just honest mistakes.

sergio23
09-30-2010, 03:37 PM
so honest that it was a mistake :p

Khalid80
10-02-2010, 12:23 PM
In other news between U.S and Philippines :D


U.S. troops' presence in the Philippines altruistic?

Analysts argue American troops are there 'to contain China'

MANILA, Philippines — It’s where security analysts believe al-Qaida first got its foothold in Southeast Asia, and at least a year before the U.S. invaded Iraq, it was the second front of America’s so-called “war on terror.”

Today, the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) and the U.S. Joint Special Operations Task Force Philippines (JSOTF-P) say they have made strides in their southern Philippines counterterrorism mission.

“The safe havens are getting smaller on the islands,” said Master Sgt. Wade Christensen, a U.S. Army Special Forces instructor who came to Mindanao in 2003 on his first tour. He’s now on his second as part of JSOTF-P. “Since we’ve been here, there have been no attacks on the U.S. from terrorist organizations that originated here or terrorists that were trained in the Philippines.”

So if the mission to defeat terrorist networks and to eradicate safe havens has been successful, why are U.S. Special Forces still operating in the southern Philippines?

“The simple answer is that the Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah terrorist groups are still here,” said U.S. Navy Captain Robert Gusentine, the JSOTF-P Commander. “They’re still active. They still aspire to violence. They still aspire to be a regional threat.”


The Philippine military, in turn, says it still needs U.S. assistance in training its security forces and getting the momentum on economic development going. “Our defense budget [is] not that much,” said Col. Aminkadra Undug, AFP Commander of Special Forces (Airborne). “If we really want to finish off and continue with the development of that area…we have to continue.”


But some regional security specialists say the payoff today isn’t worth it.

.“We’ve been there for so long, and there are real improvements,” said Zachary Abuza, a professor at the National War College. “But considering how long we’ve been there and the money we’ve put in, they’re not that big improvements…The quality of the AFP, the training and the investment, isn’t where it should be.”

Containing China?
Among some Filipinos, there’s another answer: that Washington is trying to engineer a return to the Philippines after shutting down two key military installations in the 1990s, Clark Air Base in 1991 and the Subic Bay Naval Station in 1992.

“People who are opposed to the U.S. military bases believe that the Americans are here not to provide security to the Philippines, they are here to advance their interests,” said Professor Benjamin Lim of the political science department at Ateneo de Manila University. “They are convinced that Washington’s motive precisely is to contain China, [and] the presence of the Philippines is to lay out the framework to strengthen Washington’s motive.”

U.S. officials dismiss the charges.

“The United States has no request, no need for bases in the Philippines,” said Harry Thomas, Jr., the U.S. Ambassador to the Philippines. “We’re here with JSOTF-P, our joint special operations task force, temporarily to eliminate terrorism, not to stage bases. We don’t want a conflict with China.”

Perhaps.

During Sino-U.S. talks in March this year, Chinese officials asserted that the South China Sea is one of their government’s “core national interests,” a phrase that elevates the region to the same level of sovereign importance as Tibet or Taiwan.

Washington’s public response didn’t come until July, but it was strongly worded. On a visit to Vietnam for meetings with her counterparts from the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke at length about South China Sea territorial sovereignty and the peaceful resolution of disputes. “The United States, like every nation, has a national interest in freedom of navigation, open access to Asia’s maritime commons, and respect for international law in the South China Sea,” Clinton said.

Her comments triggered an immediate and angry reply from Beijing. “The seemingly impartial remarks were in effect an attack on China,” said the Foreign Ministry.

In the meantime, relations between China and several neighbors have turned prickly. Seoul was disappointed that Beijing refused to criticize North Korea for allegedly sinking a South Korean warship in March. And last month a diplomatic dispute with Tokyo grew alarmingly heated over the Japanese arrest of a Chinese fishing captain who had rammed into Japanese patrol boats near a disputed island chain.


“The new threat is China,” said Manny Mogato, a Reuters journalist who’s been covering Philippine defense issues and the insurgency for years. “Remember they planted flags in the ocean.” (In August, the Chinese announced they’d sent a submersible to the ocean floor and planted a China flag.)

“The Chinese have become very aggressive about the South China Sea,” said Abuza, from the National War College. “This does terrify the Philippines, because they have no way to defend their claims in the South China Sea. They have no Navy. Their Air Force is absurd. So they really need the Americans there and committed to the regional security.”


“I think Philippine officials, especially the Philippine military, are afraid of China,” said Lim, the political science professor. “And they would like American support to contain China.”

Which helps explain why some may be hoping the Americans stick around.

The perception is that the “Americans are positioning themselves for China,” said Mogato. “They believe that’s why the U.S. developed the areas around General Santos City on southern Mindanao [island] for long-term preparations against China. That location cannot be reached by Chinese long-range missiles [and] it’s suitable for U.S. navy ships.”

We want Uncle Sam?
The Armed Forces of the Philippines is not the only group that might want a permanent U.S. military presence back in the Philippines. Villagers on Jolo island do, too – but for entirely different reasons.

“Why not?” said Nurada Abdurajak, a local official in Panamao, the capital of the province. “They are not harming the people…They are securing our security here.”

And – in a country which has long enjoyed a close relationship with the U.S. – it was a common refrain that the Americans could be relied upon to provide much-needed aid and assistance. “We [thank] the U.S. government…for providing us a lot in services and [economic] development,” said Salim Aloy Jainal, a former mayor of Jolo City.

But the cozy relationship also explains why any potential tension between China and the U.S. could prove complicated for the Philippines.

“To us, [the Japan-China territorial dispute in September] looked like a showdown,” said Lim. “And it’s disturbing. We have military cooperation with the U.S. At the same time, we have economic cooperation with China. We might be forced into making a choice…We want help from both sides.”

Adrienne Mong is an NBC News Correspondent based in Beijing, China.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39462815/ns/world_news-asiapacific

alien space bats
10-02-2010, 03:11 PM
i wouldnt mind if USA builds a couple of bases in Southern Philippines.

b3lowzro
10-02-2010, 08:39 PM
i wouldnt mind if USA builds a couple of bases in Southern Philippines.

and another generation of those Amerasian Athletes, I do hope the Serbs and Lithuanians would also build their bases here.

alien space bats
10-03-2010, 04:54 AM
and another generation of those Amerasian Athletes, I do hope the Serbs and Lithuanians would also build their bases here.

lol let's hope then the US sends female soldiers too so that way the boys down south will have an equal opportunity.;)
we used to have the strongest air force in Asia. there's this very old movie in the 50's which starred a young FPJ. it's entitled anak ng bulkan or something like that. there was a clip which showcased the might of our air force- effing F-86 Sabrejets trying to shoot down a giant eagle from the heavens.
if that was today the Phil.airforce would be flying like F/A-18's or maybe even the F22's. some years ago a retired air force general confirmed on a tv show our superior air capablities in the 50's and 60's by divulging classified missions involving flying into neighboring foreign air spaces. now, malaysia and singapore hav their own fleet of f-18's and f-16's.
where to now, PAF? Bringing back the USAF in the Philippines is a necessary evil that you and I will just have to swallow.

what do you know it's in youtube. found the clip. here's our f-86 sabres flying in a patented blue diamond formation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaZFwm90YhU

sergio23
01-01-2011, 04:34 AM
lol let's hope then the US sends female soldiers too so that way the boys down south will have an equal opportunity.;)
we used to have the strongest air force in Asia. there's this very old movie in the 50's which starred a young FPJ. it's entitled anak ng bulkan or something like that. there was a clip which showcased the might of our air force- effing F-86 Sabrejets trying to shoot down a giant eagle from the heavens.
if that was today the Phil.airforce would be flying like F/A-18's or maybe even the F22's. some years ago a retired air force general confirmed on a tv show our superior air capablities in the 50's and 60's by divulging classified missions involving flying into neighboring foreign air spaces. now, malaysia and singapore hav their own fleet of f-18's and f-16's.
where to now, PAF? Bringing back the USAF in the Philippines is a necessary evil that you and I will just have to swallow.

what do you know it's in youtube. found the clip. here's our f-86 sabres flying in a patented blue diamond formation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaZFwm90YhU

I would be accepting GI Jane in my house as my guest...drink all you can parteeeeyyyy:D:D:D(tho no GI Joes allowed)